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Re: Technical 2006.5 Optima Question [bargugl]
by backy
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Mar 11, 2008 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: bargugl (Mar 11, 2008 6:30 pm)
What is considered "severe usage"? Taxi driving maybe?
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Re: Technical 2006.5 Optima Question [bargugl]
by mickeyrom
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Mar 12, 2008 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: bargugl (Mar 11, 2008 7:22 pm)
I dont know the breakdown. They just list 199.95 for replacing both.Is it that easy to change the air filter?
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Re: Technical 2006.5 Optima Question [backy]
by mickeyrom
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Mar 12, 2008 (6:05 am)
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Replying to: backy (Mar 11, 2008 7:40 pm)
Excessive stop and go driving.Lots of stop and go in hot weather...It's all in the owners manual.That is why my Optima spends over 90% of its driving time on the highway.probably 95%.I cant afford the maintenance for heavy duty.Of course that means my wife drives the 2 miles to work in our 97 Town and Country.That really sucks up the gas(10-11 MPG),but I consider that use more advantageus to the alternative.It's only one tank per month.
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Re: Technical 2006.5 Optima Question [backy]
by csandste
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Mar 13, 2008 (9:55 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Mar 11, 2008 6:14 pm)
I (almost) didn't believe it until I reread the manual. Kia really gigs people with maintenance and dangles that 100K warranty to keep people in line. Differences in maintenance between my Optima and Malibu Maxx over a 100K would probably be in the thousands, and that's with the four. The V6 with timing belt would be unbearable. I'm much happier with the sophisticated OLM and 7000+ oil change cycles on my Maxx. Insurance costs on Hyunkias used to be awful because of parts but at least that's changed. I guess they have to recoup the low sales prices some way.
Backy-- Does your Elantra automatic have the same 18000 fluid change? My wife keeps the car in the garage unstarted days at a time, I'll probably split the difference with 30,000 or so fluid changes. Of course, I'll still have to go back to the dealer since the Mitsu/Hyunkia fluids are probably not widely available.
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2009 Optima facelift
by himi1
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Mar 14, 2008 (3:17 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jun 25, 2007 7:20 am)
For 2009 model year, Optima will receive a major design update. Facelift will also include an engines upgrade which will then offer more hp and lower fuel consumption.
While we are searching for additional informations, you can check for some spy shots:
http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/03/14/2009-kia-optima-facelift/
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Re: Technical 2006.5 Optima Question [csandste]
by mickeyrom
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Mar 14, 2008 (4:31 am)
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Replying to: csandste (Mar 13, 2008 9:55 pm)
I gues we should have read the fine print. The only thing that really bothers me is the expense of changing the fuel and air filters. Chrysler has a similiar set up, and they change their filter only if they have to change their fuel pump.Considering the expense,it seems only fair.Since my Optima is not "heavy use" I can change the tran fluid only if I feel like it.I have always done that every other year. My dealer charges only $79 for that service so it's no big deal, but that filter has me really steamed. Why the hell do they hide that thing in the fuel tank?(I think that's where it's at)
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Re: Technical 2006.5 Optima Question [csandste]
by backy
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Mar 14, 2008 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: csandste (Mar 13, 2008 9:55 pm)
No, it's 30k. Just had it done a little while ago.
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Re: 2009 Optima facelift [himi1]
by backy
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Mar 14, 2008 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: himi1 (Mar 14, 2008 3:17 am)
So it looks like this time, the Optima is catching up to the 2009 Sonata on the powertrain--after the Sonata finally got the 5AT from the Optima.
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Re: Technical 2006.5 Optima Question [csandste]
by mickeyrom
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Mar 14, 2008 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: csandste (Mar 13, 2008 9:55 pm)
P.S.... I just talked to a service manager at a KIA/Hyuindai dealer in Peoria,Il.
He said "there is not need to change the fuel filter unless there is a fuel starvation problem" .
I have a friend who works for Chrysler and they have the same system. They do not require any fuel filter maintenance. It makes sense.I am not sure about the air filter.
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Re: Technical 2006.5 Optima Question [mickeyrom]
by bargugl
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Mar 14, 2008 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Mar 12, 2008 5:59 am)
Reading through the shop manual, the fuel tank air filter will not be technically challenging, only time consuming. You can actually see that filter if you look under the car behind the rear wheel. There is a small opening where the filler pipe runs up to the gas cap. In order to get to it to replace it, you will need to take the wheel guard panel off (about an 1/8" thick black plastic housing). The panel is held in by six screws and two bolts which means you can take it off with a screwdriver and a wrench. However, you may still need to jack up the rear of the car and remove the rear wheel to have enough room. Once you get to it, you just need to take the old filter off and put the new one on. You don't have to run the engine or mess around with gas to replace it.(There seems to be three screws holding it in place and you need to disconnect a tube.) All you need is a wrench, screwdriver, maybe a jack and tire iron, and an hour to kill to do the entire process. Since the cost of the filter is $12, if the dealer charges an arm and a leg to do it, I would just as soon do it myself. The fuel filter is much more involved, though, so that's why I am very curious on what the break down would be for the dealer to only replace that.
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