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#10 of 146 Re: odd [exalteddragon1] by midwesttrader Sep 14, 2005 (9:59 am)
Replying to: exalteddragon1 (Sep 14, 2005 9:29 am) Hasn't that been GM's story for about the last 25 years...coulda, woulda, shoulda?   "Give the car somemore time, you will see this year they should sell quite a few G6's." Unless you mean 2006, this year is 75% over and the prime selling season (Summer) is definitely over. Replies to this message: exalteddragon1 (Sep 14, 2005 9:52 pm)
#11 of 146 Re: odd [midwesttrader] by exalteddragon1 Sep 14, 2005 (9:52 pm)
Replying to: midwesttrader (Sep 14, 2005 9:59 am) We will see how they go at the end of year blowouts. The G6 is a good car and the market is responding. How can they not when GM really has it all here. Yes sure the engine could be better, but the fact is the GTP makes 240hp without supercharging.   Lets see what happens.
#12 of 146 by fformula88 Sep 22, 2005 (4:19 am)
I drove a 3.9l/auto GTP coupe a few weeks ago and was left fairly impressed. The engine felt really strong just about anywhere in the rev range. I could chirp the tires from a standstill without the traction or stability control nannies sapping all the power. The downside is it is easy to spin a tire in turns. The car could use an LSD for spirited driving. The transmission is a tap-shift and was very eager to perform when in tapshift mode. In regular automatic, shifts were sluggish. That might be because the computer has adaptive logic and simply could not adapt to my driving style in a short testdrive The OHV engine was very smooth and quiet too. For all the talk of how rough and course GM OHV engines are (part of the argument for DOHC) I think it was just as smooth and pleasant as the 3.5L Honda SOHC engine in our Saturn Vue.   The car rode very smooth and absorbed bumps very well for having the sporty suspension, and summer only 18 inch low profile tires. Body roll was fairly minimal for a car of this size in this class. In turns, you could tell there was some heft to the car, but it tracked predictably and felt confident in turns. I couldn’t really toss it around on the test drive, so these are not at-the-limit impressions.   My number one complaint with theG6 is those darned high door sills, that make it nearly impossible to rest your arm on them. That complaint goes for half the cars on the road today, the G6 is no better. Rear visibility is not the best either. The rear of the car is fairly high, and the rear seat headrests really eat into rearward visibility.   I do have a couple quality/feature issues with the car. First, GM needs to get some body colored mirrors onto these. At least the “high end” GTP’s (both coupe and sedan). The flat black, rough plastic mirrors just look cheap on a car priced in the high $20’s. Especially when higher trim level Cobalt’s have the same mirror, but are painted body color. Second complaint is the paint. Is it just me, or do the G6’s have some of the worst orange peel on any production car today?   Overall I liked it. I really like the styling of it both in and out, initial build quality seemed very good, and the driving experience was entertaining. I think anyone looking for a mid size coupe in this class should give one a look anyway.
#13 of 146 Was the car you drove by exalteddragon1 Sep 22, 2005 (5:14 am)
with the two tone black/beige interrior? I think this is one of the best two tone schemes in the industry for a coupe. They should mimick this on the sedan which they do not do completely.   One thing that turns off people is the milege. The problem is the OHV engines respond differently to the same tests as do DOHC engines. Many people compain about the milege in the nissan 3.5L V6 that it is below the window stickers. At least with this car you know you will get what the sticker tells you.   It still does not change the fact that many people will see the sticker and have it influence them into the wrong descision. Wrong because they would omit this car for a reason that is in reality not true. Replies to this message: carbon1 (Nov 01, 2005 8:17 am)
#14 of 146 Two tone interior by fformula88 Sep 23, 2005 (4:51 am)
Nope, I drove the solid grey interior car. I haven't seen a two-tone on a lot, only pictuers. I agree that it does look sharp in two tone.   I am sure the 3.9L engine will take a lot of flack for it's 18 MPG epa city rating. That is a little low for 240 HP IMO when you just take it on the face of the rating. However, I have a feeling it is a byproduct of fairly aggressive gearing. The car does take off at the slightest stab of the throttle. It is certainly geared agressively for acceleration, and that will definately use more gas. I also agree that the EPA test can be very misleading, more so in some cars than others. Unfortunately, it is still the comparative standard, so those are the figures people will use.   It'll be interesting to see how that pays off in acceleration times. I know Pontiac is claiming a 0-60 in 6.6 seconds. I have yet to see any independent test times, either by the press or anecdotal from an owner.
#15 of 146 Finally saw them by vanman1 Oct 01, 2005 (5:42 pm)
The G6 coupes are nice!!   Saw 3 of them, one a GTP. One of the nicest coupes on the market IMO. If only I didn't have kids.
#16 of 146 Frameless Window Coupe by gmfan007 Oct 11, 2005 (11:14 am)
FINALLY!!! A frameless window coupe from GM that is front wheel drive and affordable. THANK YOU!!! I suppose it is asking too much for a true hard top with no center post.
#17 of 146 My thoughts on the G6 by myob Oct 24, 2005 (5:41 pm)
I was interested but ultimately bored by the initial relase of the G6. Decent car, a step in the right direction, but missing some things I wanted. Styling was decent but not quite there, too.   We wound up getting an '06 BMW 325i.   Now our '03 Saab 9-3, which is built on the same Epsilon platform as the G6, is getting near 60K miles and we may need a replacement (have to have super reliability in our special circumstances) since the Saab's overly complex electronics are starting to act up some. The car is solid, it just has electrical issues. I was hoping a G6, not having many of the fancy gadgets of the Saab, would be more reliable.   When I saw the G6 coupe it got my attention. When I saw the added features of the GTP version (mainly stability control and some serious power) I started investigating. I'm impressed with what you get in a G6 GTP coupe for the money. I've driven camrys, accords, Mazda 6, and it blows those away in most areas. The Mazda 6 is a decent ride, but the styling inside and out and lack of structural quality had me worried. The real world price of the G6 is less, so you can put the difference into a 100K warranty if you want.   As for the fuel economy on the 3.9 engine. I assume it uses regular fuel? If so, that puts it up there with the near-lux cars that require premium. Our 325i is considered an efficient car. I get 21 city and just over 30 highway. The GTP is close to those numbers adjusted for fuel prices.   The GTP needs a 5 gear transmission, but it uses brute power to make up for it. The BMW uses a 6 speed auto to get the most out of its modest hp/torque. It hits 60mph in 7.2 seconds with an auto, though Car and Driver claims 6.1 with a manual. It feels fast because it is always in the meat of the powerband and the engine really revs up there smoothly. Looking forward to trying the 3.9L engine and see if it's smoother than most GM engines of the past.   I don't put a lot of stock in JD power. I have filled out one of their surveys. They are insanely long and complex, and I doubt your typical owner will bother with it. So you get a skewed sampling. Only certain types of personalities would take the time.   I prefer the two tone interior colors to the black. GM's black leather is a little grayish and the interior a little drab. The Saab has a similar look with the beige seats.   For a driveout price of maybe $25,500 if you're easy on the options, this car is hard to beat. No, it's not perfect. But for $10,000 less, it will handle decently and outpace or at least hang with our other car. It's not as durable or long lasting maybe, but when it breaks it costs half as much to fix. I has the safety features and scores I want, and I like the looks. Consider me a fan of the GTP coupe. Replies to this message: v8jim (Oct 25, 2005 7:10 am) exalteddragon1 (Oct 25, 2005 5:05 pm)
#18 of 146 Re: My thoughts on the G6 [myob] by v8jim Oct 25, 2005 (7:10 am)
Replying to: myob (Oct 24, 2005 5:41 pm) There is no doubt that G6 is better than its competition. It is tight as a drum with a very firm frame. The styling is beautiful. I was going to buy a GTP but I couldn't find any with the discount so I bought the Grand Prix GXP. The GXP is super fast and fun, but it's not as good a car as the G6. I then found out that there might be a G6 GXP next year. This is great news for me b/c I use high mileage on my business and will probably trade in the next 14 months. G6 GXP with 280 hp will be awesome! The foreign cars are nice, but the G6 and Dodge Charger prove that if people pick foreign over American, their just being brainwashed by advertising and media. Replies to this message: exalteddragon1 (Oct 25, 2005 5:05 pm)
#19 of 146 Re: My thoughts on the G6 [v8jim] by exalteddragon1 Oct 25, 2005 (5:05 pm)
Replying to: v8jim (Oct 25, 2005 7:10 am) Dogde is not American.   Crysler was stolen by Dymler in a big purchase that was labelled a merger of equals. Crysler and its brands are now a German company.   I totally agree with you, though. The real differnce between our cars and foreign cars like crysler and toyota (never thought you could use those names like that ) is academic. GM is better than crysler for sure, and chevy i think is higher than toyota.   The G6 is a really nice car, just took a while to get used to. Still, I think GM could have done better. They did make up for it with the coupe. That new V6 should be nice. I love all the chrome inside. They need nav and HID's now, meybe even Xenon?   Hopefully GM will put that new 6 speed transmission here, it would improve the milage and the performance.

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