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Audi A4, Acura TL, Volvo S60, Volkswagen Passat, Sedan
#6 of 90 Re: Audi A4 vs Acura TL vs Volvo S60 vs VW Passat [tomatopie]
by strato435
Aug 04, 2005 (2:15 pm)
I'd certainly be inclined towards the TDI Passat -- if it were available! I'm told that VW doesn't plan to import diesel Passats in 2006, but will likely do so in 2007. In fact, VW makes my patronage even more difficult since the only Passat with the nav system in 2006 will be the 6 cylinder -- and as I've said, fuel economy does matter to me.
BTW, I just returned from a vacation in Germany where I rented a diesel Mercedes Vaneo, a mid-sized minivan. It drove quite nicely! Pick-up was so-so, and that was a frustration for me, but once you get up to 150 kpm on the autobahn, you're really having fun!
#7 of 90 Re: Those Passat TDI's are very nice... [byronwalter]
by bodble2
Aug 06, 2005 (9:51 am)
"The TL had what I felt to be excessive oversteer..."
You mean understeer?
#8 of 90 Re: Audi A4 vs Acura TL vs Volvo S60 vs VW Passat [dulnev]
by bodble2
Aug 06, 2005 (9:54 am)
Your impression of the Audi's 2.0 turbo motor is surprising since most car mags have lauded the engine for its power and smoothness. Maybe their point of reference was the old 1.8T, which was a rather loud and rough motor.
#9 of 90 Re: Those Passat TDI's are very nice... [bodble2]
by byronwalter
Aug 06, 2005 (12:55 pm)
...oops!... So sorry... thanks for the correction
#10 of 90 I think I will test drive an A6
by frisconick
Aug 06, 2005 (2:21 pm)
I never liked the exterion look of the A6, but I think I will test drive on next weekend, it seems it has a lot of fans.
#12 of 90 sapparo
by pat
Aug 06, 2005 (4:48 pm)
You need to email me as soon as possible - pat AT edmunds.com. Thanks.
#13 of 90 Re: I think I will test drive an A6 [frisconick]
by pat
Aug 06, 2005 (4:49 pm)
Hope you'll give us a full report ... in an A6-related discussion, of course.
#14 of 90 Re: I think I will test drive an A6 [pat]
by frisconick
Aug 07, 2005 (12:18 am)
Sorry Pat, I forgot that this was an A4 comparo, sorry.
#15 of 90 I'm in the same boat
by tcatnat
Aug 07, 2005 (6:04 am)
We are in the same position. We have driven the TL and S60 and will drive the A4 today. Right now the TL is our choice. The things we didn't like about the S60 were the blind spot caused by the large headrest, the turning circle and the price when compared to similarly equipped competition. Actually the S60 we would have opted for was $3k more than the Acura after the final numbers came in. However, the lease was a few bucks less per month.
I felt that the power in the S60 was adequate which actually surprised me a bit as I was expecting worse. Here's my take, the S60 is the New England Patriots; refined, reliable smooth but nothing flashy while the TL is the Indianapolis Colts; flashy, reliable and more exciting to drive. OK, maybe not the best analogy but hopefully you get my point.
One final thought. The Acura dealer actually mentioned to us that if we waited another month or so that we could get the '06 TL for a lower monthly payment (not by too much) than the '05; his reasoning was the residual value of the new model would be greater than the current. Does this sound right? I'm in now rush so I could order an '06 and take delivery whenever it comes in.