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Replying to: wruberte (Dec 15, 2008 9:42 pm)  . Whatever man. Last time I checked only ONE recall had to do with with the exhaust potentially catching fire. You said that the 2 recalls were related to that, which is still misleading (or I may be wrong and where you live the sliding doors' latches not only freeze but could also catch fire to the exhaust  ) Anyway, to your Lemon point in GA. You car must have been purchased in 2005 for the exhaust recall to apply so if you want to point out that your car is a lemon NOW (almost 2009), you are not making a good case. My only point is: I would suggest to take your case differently, do more research and your chances of succeeding may be higher Best of luck! The Lemon Law rights period is the period ending one year from the date you took delivery of the vehicle, or after the first 12,000 miles of your use—whichever occurs first. Georgia Governor's Office of Consumers Affairs: http://consumer.georgia.gov/00/article/0,2086,5426814_39105738_59620902,00.html |
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Replying to: wruberte (Dec 15, 2008 9:42 pm) It had one recall for the exhaust, and one recall for the latch. Not two due to exhaust overheating issues, as you initially claimed. Research is only as good as the language used to describe the findings. As far as I know, the existence of recalls does not a lemon make. My past two cars had a couple of recalls on them, and the cars were fine. Many cars have a couple recalls during their lifetime. If you took your 2006 Mazda in for the recall while under the protection of the lemon law ("12 months following the purchase of the vehicle or for 12,000 miles following the purchase of the vehicle, whichever occurs first." - GA law), and they took 45 days to repair it, you might have had a claim, had you acted on it. The fact that your A/C failed later, out of warranty, has no bearing on the car being a lemon. In your circumstances, the only legally recognized "lemony" thing about your Mazda is the lengthy repair time. Not the fact it had recalls. Not the fact that at 50,000 miles it suffered a component failure. To me, a lemon is a car that is grossly defective in its engineering or parts - not one that some dealership took a long time to fix on one occassion. From my point of view, if I'm to be warned away from a particular car, I'd need more evidence than a couple of recalls, a lengthy stay in the shop, and a parts failure at 50,000 miles. I replaced my Jetta's starter motor around 70,000 after it failed - I wasn't cursing the car, despite the fact it has a recall (and 23 complaints for it on the NHTSA site!). I think your conclusion that the Mazda 5 is a lemon is unjustified. Maybe it technically fell under the provisions of GA lemon law due to that 45 days in the shop, but that's not what the typical car buyer is thinking when discussing whether a certain model is an overall lemon.
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Replying to: redberry (Dec 16, 2008 7:55 am) |
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Replying to: wruberte (Dec 15, 2008 9:36 pm) Rather than shouting "lemon" and pursuing that angle, you may want to research if this failure is occurring to other Mazda owners and consider a class-action. From what I've read about the Honda cases, Honda did pay when it was a case of the entire system needing replacing, to the tune of $4000. I'm still planning to buy a MZ 5 this month, though. |
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It was indicated there were two recalls and indicated that there was a serious exhaust issue. Can't help if you'll took it to the next illogical level and thought both recalls were related to the same issue. NHTSA Investigation will prompt Mazda Corporate to do due diligence. Do you really think Mazda is going to post failure rates of an AC Compressor model for public consumption out of altruism? Do you really think Mazda did a recall on the scale that it did for the engine exhaust out of pure concern for the customer or for reasons of liability? Mazda Corporate's Customer Service Management flatly denied a request for the failure rates of the same model AC Compressor in Mazda vehicles and a detailed search for patterns in such failures indicating a general unwillingness to even look into much less acknowledge the issue of a "catastrophic failure" as indicated by the Mazda Dealership Service Technician where by "you will probably need a blowtorch to disassemble it". Lastly yes, vehicle repair took greater than 45 days for the exhaust recall. 
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Replying to: wruberte (Dec 16, 2008 7:40 pm) I'm not saying not to try to get Mazda to cover your compressor, by all means continue to pursue this as long as you can and your avenues run out. I am just saying that you should not single Mazda out nor automatically call your MZ5 a lemon because your A/C compressor prematurely failed and the fact that it has had a few recalls. All car makes have lots of recalls, some that go unoticed because they become TSB (Technical Service Bulletins) only, and they will only surface if you come in to the service department and have a concern that happens to have a TSB issued. The fact that some dealerships (I know I work for one) are less competent then others or that are less willing to help the customer out is totally out of Mazda's or any other car manufacturers control (somewhat) is also not a presice representation of the car manufaturer. Lastly you really have not told us how many miles you have on your MZ5. If it is still close to 50K you might have a chance at getting a "nice" service writer to help you out getting this covered through Mazda. However, if you have way more miles and/or come in to your local Mazda dealer with a shitty attitude, you can be assured that you will not get sympathy and will see you as a gravy pot for them. Good luck bud! |
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Replying to: wruberte (Dec 16, 2008 7:40 pm) I sense an attitude. |
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Hi, My wife owns a Mazda5 2007 and we are very very happy with it. It's time to buy a new car for me and I want to consider the Mazda5 2009 but have the following issues. Does the 2009 version rectify any of the following faults I found with my wife's 2007 model? Can anyone suggest some work arounds? a) I'm 6 feet and the leg room is a little tight in the drivers seat. Also, the brake and accelerator are very close together (we both drive automatics). b) The cabin noise is quite loud (crappy toyo tires?) c) I drive a lot, so I'll burn through the 36K warranty very quickly. d) Towing, my wife's manual says she can't tow anything. I just want to tow a small trailer when I go camping to take a few bikes, tents, camping gear etc. e) Weak A/C. I live in hot sacramento and have two young children sitting in the rear who in the 2007 version don't get very cool. Note, I love her car and there is much to recommend about it, but the above are major detractions for me.
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Replying to: idavidson (Dec 28, 2008 4:30 pm) A mile is still a mile, so unless you drive less, you'll get to 36k just as fast. The cabin may be a little more quiet. |
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