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#702 of 1273 Re: 2008 - 2009 Mazda 5 MT [boxrs4sale]
Nov 14, 2008 (4:10 pm)
Yeah, economy is bad, but out of all the Mazdas the Mazda5 is the fastest moving vehicle in the lots (it is not a Dodge Durango), so I still believe you are dealing a 2008 not an 09, and it does not matter if both are new, it is just how things work. Anyway, good luck, post here if you get the 15K deal
Oh, and my Civic was a 99, it was nice but not fun to drive, the Mazda5, even as a grocery getter model, it is quite fun to drive, test drive one (and if its manual even better)
#703 of 1273 $16769 sport
Nov 17, 2008 (7:58 pm)
We just got a black 09 sport for $16769 this weekend. Loving it so far. A few minor design features I miss from our forester like the over head sunglass storage and in dash storage, day time running lights so you don't have to turn on/off lights, a dome light within reach of the driver (why is it way in the back? how about a switch to access it from the front?)
And why did they go to the trouble and expense to put second row vents but not connect them to the heat? Why just AC? Weird.
Love the controls on the steering wheel - especially the stereo mute! Love the space inside. I swear it is bigger inside than outside!
But the worst is the headlight angle. GOT to get in to the service dept and get them fixed. We live on rural highways and can't see more than a couple hundred feet ahead if that without the brights on and there is too much on coming traffic to keep them on. I am really afraid I am going to hit a deer!
But overall we LOVE it!
#704 of 1273 Re: $16769 sport [abarry90]
Nov 18, 2008 (12:30 pm)
Can you advise on what transmission and what options your '09 Sport has? Also your general location.
I'm in eastern PA and have been shopping for an '08 Model with my first quote being very impressive without much negotiating: Automatic '08 Sport with Pearl Paint, All Weather Mats, and Bumper Guard:
I know there is $1500 of dealer engagement cash on the '08 models and it looks like they're giving up ~$200 of holdback as well. I think the dealer engagement cash for the '09 is $1000. If it's only a few hundred bucks difference, I guess it's a smarter move to go for the '09 model year.
#705 of 1273 Re: $16769 sport [abarry90]
Nov 18, 2008 (3:14 pm)
I just got an 09 Sport (manual). Paid about $125 over the invoice price. Added a few accessories (roof rack, bumper guard). I am fairly pleased with it so far.
I have disliked the unreachable rear dome light and missing sunglasses storage. I was also unthrilled that the rear vent/blower does not send heated or cooled air to the passengers. It just sucks whatever is nearby. Kind of cheesy.
Otherwise my wife and I are really pleased with it. It has been said many times before, but the microvan parks like a motorcycle. I swear, it maneuvers around a parking lot like my Sentra. Plenty of power and extra easy access to the middle seating area. I have even sat in the third row for around-town driving and haven't been unhappy about the experience. (I am 5'10", might be less happy if I was a few inches taller.)
#706 of 1273 bummed and happy
Nov 18, 2008 (5:38 pm)
New poster here. Sure wish I had found this forum last friday. I now realize that I could have had an '09 Mazda 5 for what I paid (~17K) for a used 07 with AT. The TMV prices on the website must be stale. We paid about $500 over Used Private Party price and got it from a dealer so I thought that was acceptable.
I guess the dealer incentives and desperation to sell new cars has not caught up with TMV, which shows people paying 20-21K for a new 09. Some of you are getting them for a lot less than that!
The one I bought has only 4500 miles and still has new car smell. The dealer was calling it a Sport based on VIN but everything about it indicates Touring. If it is a Sport, it has had all the upgrades that a Touring has.
Part of the reason for the crummy deal was we had a trade-in of a 99 VW Jetta. Our 17K price for the Mazda5 is based on getting 4K for this car (private party blue book is about 5K assuming repaired water pump). It was going to need some repairs soon. If you had told me before all of this started that we could get 4K for that car doing no more than washing it and handing over the keys we would have jumped at it. So we got rid of the old one but ...
It gets worse. We get there Friday night after haggling for hours the night before and I had talked them down to what I thought was reasonable. They finally produce the CarFax I had asked for earlier. Turns out it was a repo. Okay. We'll still do it. Go through more paperwork and time. My 30 weeks first-time pregnant wife is going from excited to very tired. Then we found out since it was a repo, it only has a single key and no remote entry. Why we didn't walk out right then is something I'll ask myself forever. It was late and we signed the papers. Got it in writing that they would give us keys and a remote entry "at cost".
Now we have to shell out ~$400 for new keys! Oh, but it gets better (not!). We apparently have the "klunking" problem due to bad bushings in the 06-07s. And the automatic locks (with the one key we have) are tempermental. I'm going to check tonight if we have the AT "stall" between 2nd and 3rd gear. We are scheduled to go into Mazda dealer service on Thursday. The "klunking" and locks should be covered by the warranty. The keys we have to shell out for. Does anybody have any idea how to find out what "cost" for these items actually is? Their quote for new keys is only about 15% off retail price.
I can not recommend Cutter Mazda in Honolulu. I can't claimed they ripped me off when I knowingly signed the papers, but I didn't get a good deal (as I now know from this forum) and they pretty much told me after the deal, hey that's what you get for buying a used car - go see the service department.
On the bright side, I'm confident we'll get the keys, get the locks and klunking fixed under warranty, and will go on to love the car. Even in spite of all the problems, my wife loves the car and we think it is going to be great for our new family. And as dumb as it sounds (and believe me I'm feeling pretty dumb!) it's got this silver color with a green tint that we think is really cool.
Thanks for reading. Venting has been good therapy.
#707 of 1273 Re: bummed and happy [oahumazda5]
by vg33e power
Nov 19, 2008 (7:40 am)
Aloha, there oahumazda5, dont feel to bad about your purchase. When you buy a "used" vehicle it is the risk you take on getting a vehicle delivered that may have one or a few issues. Luckily you have plenty of factory warranty left on your MZ5. I also bought a used MZ5, mine is a 2006 Strato Blue Touring Auto with 41K miles, so I had a lot less time to get anything fixed under warranty. Fortunately I work for the auto business in a dealer selling wholesale parts, so I have lots of people I know in possibley every car line. I was able to get replaced so far on my MZ5 under warranty both outside mirrors (glass shook a lot), two rear shocks (leaking), PCM update (hesitated from a stop), right outer a/c vent (it was seized open), two front sway bar bushings (knocking noise), and still pending from DSM approval a complete rear hatch replacement or repair (cracks at both hinges on hatch).
So you see buying used is not nessesarily bad (unless you got reamed) you just have to take care of what the previous owners did not do or keep up with. I got an awesome deal on my MZ5 ($12,495 out the door including all fees) so I could not pass up the offer since I needed a bigger vehicle for my growing family as well (wifee has one cooking in the oven).
Also, about the keys, tell that Mazda dealer to shove it and pick up a couple of them on ebay, You can get them for about $50-70 shipped each instead of the $300 the dealer wants for them.
Finally, make sure you make that dealer pay back all the agony they made you and your wifee go through and bug them to replace anything that comes up under warranty. Payback is a female dog and working for a dealership myself I know that there are ways to get stuff covered under warranty, you just have to either make a good (and I mean good) friend at the dealership or bug the crap out of them to the point that they will do it just to not hear you nag. Sad but true!
Anyway, welcome and aloha!
#708 of 1273 Re: bummed and happy [vg33e power]
Nov 19, 2008 (7:56 am)
thanks for the welcome and reply. We'll I can say one thing: it's a good thing that it's me that's angry and my pregnant wife who is happy instead of the other way around!
Believe me, they are going to get to know me real well down there at the parts and service department. We're making a list.
I'd love to pick up a couple of remote keys on eBay, but unfortunately you have to have a working one already to get a second programmed, and we're starting from zero. Any idea how to find out what is "cost" for this part?
#709 of 1273 Re: bummed and happy [oahumazda5]
by vg33e power
Nov 19, 2008 (10:04 am)
Unfortunately, these parts are VIN specific due to the frequency used for the keyless transmitter, but for my specific wagon part# G2YA-76-2GXB is for the key and part# CC43-67-5RYC is for the transmitter. Both employee cost (cost plus 10%) is $180.16 plus tax. Hope this helps you.
#710 of 1273 Re: bummed and happy [vg33e power]
Nov 19, 2008 (12:16 pm)
Yes that helps. Thanks.
#711 of 1273 update to above post on '07 Mazda5
Nov 20, 2008 (7:28 pm)
model: 2009 Mazda5 Sport with AT (blue with tan interior)
price paid: $19390 + TTL (based on $3500 kelly blue book value for a '99 Jetta trade-in, buying an '07 Mazda5 and trading it in too)
I've been at the Cutter Ala Moana Mazda dealer every day the last 10 days except Sunday. First to look casually, then to look at a low mile '07 (post above), negotiate on the '07, buy the '07, argue about the cost of making me a key, ask them to undo it and put me in an '09, come back and ask again, and come back and ask again, all to no avail, and then I get a call today. The original salesman I had worked with the first time 9 days ago called me this morning to ask how I liked the car! I told him I had just dropped it off at the dealership a half hour ago to get a new key made for $400, fix a klunking sound due to bad bushings, get the locks fixed ... I was definitely not happy!
He took it to the dealer General Manager and also got a different sales manager involved than the one I had been dealing with for the past week. By phone we got closer to a deal. I came in and haggled for another hour or two to get the deal posted above.
The first night I walked in the dealership I could have had the car for 18K + TTL although I doubt I would have gotten blue book for the trade at that price. I figure the whole deal (buy an 07, trade it in 6 days later, buy an 09) probably cost me $1000-$1500 more than if I had just bought the 09 in the first place. But at least now I'm happy. I'm going to save $1000 compared to buying used by using 0% APR financing this time. Car will have more value down the road because it's 2 years newer. 5 speed AT, other little things they improved over the '07 made it a good deal.
I went through hell and I put that dealership through a little hell too. Obviously I have mixed feelings about Cutter Mazda in Honolulu but all's well that ends well. I have nothing but great things to say about "David". I know I'm not supposed to post names but he's been great to work with and saved the reputation of Cutter Mazda in my eyes.
Now I can get on to simply enjoying our new Mazda5!