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#595 of 1273 Quote over the phone any good?
May 21, 2008 (7:37 am)
I just called a Mazda dealer in NJ and was given a quote of $17200 for a Mazda5 Sport Automatic color gray. According to the person I spoke to, MSRP is $19,645. I didn't see that MSRP figure in Edmunds.com for Mazda5 Sport Automatic. I saw instead MSRP $18,945, INVOICE $17,734, and TMV $18,174 for "2008 Mazda MAZDA5 Sport 4dr Minivan (2.3L 4cyl 5A)".
So with a TMV of $18,174, I think the price quote of $17,200 is very good.
My question is, is quote over the phone any good? Will they change the number once I visit? I made sure they won't but it's all verbal.
I called another Mazda dealer in the same NJ area who told me phone quotes are no good. They just want me in the store then change the quote. He said if I go to him, he'll give me a quote that won't change. But he won't give a quote over the phone, though.
Who do I believe? Thanks!
#596 of 1273 Quote over the phone any good?
May 21, 2008 (7:45 am)
I agree with that salesman that quotes over the phone are no good.
GET YOUR QUOTES IN EMAIL. This will list all options, taxes fees etc. Take it to the closest dealer or the one you are most likley to use for service and I bet they will match no problem.
#597 of 1273 Re: Quote over the phone any good? [prosend]
May 21, 2008 (9:40 am)
Thanks, prosend. I left a message on his voicemail to e-mail me the quote. If he doesn't call back or e-mail, that's it for that dealer .
#598 of 1273 Re: Quote over the phone any good? [bbork10002]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
May 21, 2008 (10:47 am)
Edmunds adds the destination fee on the 2nd page, where you choose the options..
I haven't checked your numbers, but make sure you click through to the 2nd pricing page..
#599 of 1273 Re: Quote over the phone any good? [kyfdx]
May 21, 2008 (11:28 am)
Yes, thanks, kyfdx, I did go to page 2. All the prices I mentioned in my post (MSRP, INVOICE, and TMV) are Edmund's "National Base Price". After "regional adj" and "dest. charge", Edmund's TMV comes to $18,939.
Another dealer I just spoke to would only give an estimate over the phone, not a quote. His estimate is $19,000 (which is close to TMV $18,939) + NY taxes and fees would be about $21,200. I forgot to ask if dest. charge is alread included. He agrees the first dealer I spoke is just trying to "wake" me up with his low $17,200 quote.
#600 of 1273 Re: Quote over the phone any good? [prosend]
May 22, 2008 (5:56 am)
I received e-mail (and message on my home answering machine) with the quoted $17200 for the Mazda5 sport auto. The e-mail doesn't list any options -- I didn't ask for any options other than what comes standard. But the e-mail states what was quoted on the phone, that is, "2008 Mazda5 sport auto" with an "e-price" of $17200 "valid ONLY on purchases made directly through our Internet Department". Destination fee not yet included. The price quote also expires after "48 hours".
The e-mail also has what I feel are "come ons" like btw-we-have-other-similar-but-less-expensive-models-to-choose-from and a-five-minute-phone-call-from-you-would-prevent-days-and-days-of-e-mail and we-are-the-largest-mazda-dealer-in-the-nation which I think are all meant to generate excitement.
The third dealer I called yesterday said (with a tone of disbelief IMO) that if I can get it at that price, go for it.
I'm planning to visit the store on Saturday which is about an hour's drive away. I know the quote would be over 48 hours by then but I'd call before I go also to ask what is meant by "Internet purchase".
It sounds too good to be true -- 17,200 is 2,445 below MSRP of 19,645 -- and it may well be especially since I know he's trying to make money and not save me money so if anyone knows (or smells) any gotchas please I'd appreciate knowing. Thanks!
#601 of 1273 Re: Quote over the phone any good? [bbork10002]
May 22, 2008 (3:02 pm)
Are you going for the special 1.9 APR financing? Make sure your dealer knows that. Some will say, "oh since the price is so low, we can't do MAZDA financing. blah, blah, blah." And force you on their own financing.
#602 of 1273 Re: Quote over the phone any good? [bbork10002]
May 22, 2008 (3:43 pm)
An 07 mazda5 sport auto wholesales used for about 13000 or so with average miles on it. This is about the same as the 07 Toyota Matrix and Pontiac Vibe (same cars) both with msrp's of about 19000 and change. The 08 vibes and matrixes were sold in the last few months for the low to mid 15000's. Your target on the mazda should be in the high 15000's. ( eating 2500-3000 1st year in depreciation for a common auto in this price range is enough)
You could probably get a well equipped -09 Vibe or Matrix now in the low 17000's, even lower in the next few months.
#603 of 1273 08 Mazda5 Grand Touring
May 25, 2008 (3:34 pm)
GTs seem to be getting tough to find in California. We really wanted Pearl White but there were no white GTs within 600 miles of us, except a fully loaded one and the crazy dealer in Modesto wanted $31K for it.
Mid City Mazda in Eureka had no 08 GTs but had a Black 07 and they offered it to us with Nav and Sat radio and a bunch of other smaller oiptions for 22K.
Mazda of Oakland came right out and offered 22k for an 08 GT with no other options.
Team Mazda of Vellajo offered $21500 for a white GT w/Homelink but did not have a delivery date for the vehicle.
Autowest of Roseville matched Oakland and tossed in wheel locks, cargo net, rear step, dealer tint, full tank of gas. We ended up taking this deal with a blue GT and getting the 3.9% financing as they gave us an ok price on our trade too. Great expereince there especially with their top salesman but my only gripe with them is the whole car buying process should not take 5 hours long.
May 27, 2008 (4:27 pm)
what have been your experiences dealing with carsdirect .Are they on the level? Good or bad ? Thanks.