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#438 of 617
Saga of the Mazda5 continues by okaasan
Nov 17, 2006 (2:55 pm)
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Thanks David, I'll pick up the LA Times today. The ads are cheaper than the quotes we got from Thousand Oaks (which are still $2K lower than the quotes in Hawaii).
 
Today, they sent me a quote for $18,191 for a 2006 Touring in Greensilver Metal, auto trans, wheel locks.
 
For a 2007 Touring in Galaxy Gray Mica, auto trans, wheel locks, compass/autodim mirror, the quote was $19,642.
 
They also have a 2007 Grand Touring, Galaxy Gray Mica, auto trans, wheel locks for $20,607.
 
Everything is about $1000 under invoice.
 
I don't have a Grand Touring quote yet here in Hawaii. Regarding the Touring models, the HI dealers are still at $21K and won't budge from there.
 
We have a friend who will pick the car up on a flatbed and make the shipping arrangements for us. It will cost us about $1000 but we're hoping to avoid the CA taxes and pay HI taxes instead (at least THAT's lower).
 
I would rather drive the 5 than do the MPV though. I know with three kids, the MPV would be a better choice but it's still a VAN (ugh).
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Re: Saga of the Mazda5 continues [okaasan] by kw_da
Nov 18, 2006 (12:10 am)
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Replying to: okaasan (Nov 17, 2006 2:55 pm)

Hi,
 
You can check the LaTimes online site - they have Mazda ads - you click on ads, then search for Mazda. However, I wasn't able to find the Thousand Oaks ad - its possible its a region specific ad as the LaTimes has a Ventura version.
 
As far as I know, you pay the tax depending on your residence - you may want to double check this.
 
David
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2006 Touring with 5 speed for $24K!!!!! by fred222
Nov 18, 2006 (5:15 pm)
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I test drove a 2006 Mazda 5 Touring with the 5 speed transmission today. I specifically am looking for a vehicle which can seat five in reasonable comfort (wife + 3 kids), gets good gas mileage has a manual transmission and fits me (6'4"). There are very few choices with these specifications. I like the Mazda 5 although it is somewhat cramped. I would say that the rear seat is really only for kids. My son noted the absence of the front passenger seat arm rest and I noted that both middle seats do not have an arm rest on the door. I liked the car. It drove well and had adequate power with the stick. I would probably have to have the driver's seat moved back several inches if I wanted to be comfortable driving this car. This is not insurmountable, but not something that you want to do with a brand new car.
The kicker came after I finished the test drive. The salesman of course asked me what it would take to get me to buy the car right now. I said that I would have to talk to my wife and think about the positives and negatives of the vehicle. Both true. Then I asked about the price, since that is certainly part of the consideration of buying a vehicle. I had previously looked at the sticker and noticed a $3000 regional adjustment. The salesman looked at the sticker and said that the car would be about $24000 + tax etc. The MSRP on a new 2007 Mazda 5 Touring with no options like the one I drove is $19745. The vehicle I was interested in was a 2006 with 159 miles and Mazda has a $1000 cash back offer on 2006 M5 when financed through Mazda. I see no point in going back and talking to the salesman if they really think that I am going to pay $24K for that vehicle. While driving home I was thinking about the Mazda 5 and comparing it to the 2005 Pacifica touring that my wife has which was purchased new for $26K. The Pacifica has the same seating arrangement, but with more room, has leather seats with arm rests all around, has a 250 Hp V6 with AWD and in general has a much more refined feel. The only down side is the gas mileage. We also have a 2006 Odyssey EX-L. The Odyssey LX (not EX-L like ours)can be purchased for close to the asking price for the Mazda 5 and is so superior to it in every way that I am not even going to talk about it.
Again, I have no idea what this salesman was doing, but it left a bad taste in my mouth. If they really want $24K for this vehicle they are dreaming and if they don't I have no idea what they are looking at for price as part of my decision making process.
Comments?
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Comments? by kyfdx HOST
Nov 19, 2006 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: fred222 (Nov 18, 2006 5:15 pm)

If that Mazda5 is the car you really want, then make an offer.. For all that salesman knows, you are a complete rube and he can make his whole month by selling you a car for $4K over MSRP. His job is to get as high a price as possible.
 
Anyway, salespeople generally don't have the decision making power when it comes to the sales price. I always try to disregard most of what they have to say. The only thing that matters is if I get the car that I want, at the price I want.
 
And, you can't find that out until you make an offer..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Comments? [kyfdx] by fred222
Nov 19, 2006 (8:56 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 19, 2006 9:46 am)

I contacted University Mazda in Seattle for a quote on a 2006 5 speed Sport which is what I really wanted anyway (vs Touring). They quoted $16868 before the $1000 rebate Mazda is offering for financing through Mazda. This is a great price but I am still concerned about the driving comfort being 6'4" tall. I will have to move the seat back 2-3" to drive this vehicle comfortably. This is why I am not jumping on it, but if nothing better comes up I may have to go that route. It is tough buying a new car that is not really big enough for you.
 
BTW: I had originally contacted the dealer where I test drove the car by e-mail asking for a quote. They said come in and we will talk, but at least they had a stick I could test drive. Another dealer I contacted said they had a stick Mazda 5 and when I got there they did not have a single Mazda 5 on the lot. If the dealer where I test drove the car had quoted $24K I would not have gone there for the test drive. If I am to effectively compare the Mazda 5 to other vehicles I must have some idea of the price.
 
In my previous post I compared the Mazda 5 to vehicles about $25K. Now I would have to compare it to vehicles about $16K which is very different and much more favorable for the Mazda 5.
 
This is a great vehicle which I may still purchase.
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Re: 2006 Touring with 5 speed for $24K!!!!! [fred222] by burtlancaster
Nov 19, 2006 (9:00 pm)
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Replying to: fred222 (Nov 18, 2006 5:15 pm)

Go back and tell the salesman that you'd really like to buy the car, but only under the condition that it isn't from him.
I have a 5-speed, and I think it is a very good car. I also have a 2005 Odyssey LX, so I can make a direct comparison to that. The Mazda gets better gas mileage, and is more fun to drive, but the Odyssey has it beat in every other area. The Odyssey gets about 21 MPG, while my Mazda gets about 28 MPG.
If you want your kids to be comfortable, I'd get the Odyssey. If you want a car that is fun to drive and feels like a tight Japanese car should, get the Mazda. My wife drives the Odyssey, and hauls the kids around (I have 4 kids), while I use the Mazda for my 20 mile commute to work, and also as a back-up to the Honda.
Good luck with your decision.
I bought my 5-speed here in Texas for $17,200.
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Re: 2006 Touring with 5 speed for $24K!!!!! [burtlancaster] by bobw3
Nov 20, 2006 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: burtlancaster (Nov 19, 2006 9:00 pm)

Price is one of the key advantages to the Mazda5, but if you're going to pay in the low 20's for a Mazda5, that seems a little high to me.
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2006 vs 2007 by danix
Nov 20, 2006 (2:39 pm)
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I'm considering a Mazda5 with manual transmission.
At this point, there are no Touring models with manual in my area, and only a couple of Sports left.
 
I have a couple of questions I hope someone can answer.
 
1) Besides the warranty, and colors, what has changed from 2006 to 2007? The window stickers show some additional details (like EBD) that were not on the 2006. Are these just wording changes and/or omissions on the 2006 sticker?
 
2) The US roof rack is fugly. Is it possible to import the euro roof rails and install them?
 
3) General consensus seems to be that the 06 warranty is better than the 07. Does that, plus $1000 cash back from Mazda Credit, make up for the difference in depreciation between buying a 2006 vs a 2007?
 
Thanks!
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drove one by danix
Nov 20, 2006 (10:27 pm)
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We drove a used one tonight (it was the closest one with a stick).
 
Impressions (this from a VW enthusiast):
- good use of space
- decent interior quality, but not VW/Audi
- handling better than expected
- power about what I expected
- brakes are adequate
 
We're leaning towards buying one instead of a used Passat Wagon, because of the extra space.
I'm still not sure if $1000 back on the 06 offsets the depreciation, come 4-5 years from now. It's probably a wash.
 
Does anyone know where I can find a full size picture of the 06 Gray? It changed slightly for 07 and is no longer on Mazda's site.
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Re: 2006 vs 2007 [danix] by kw_da
Nov 21, 2006 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: danix (Nov 20, 2006 2:39 pm)

2) The US roof rack is fugly. Is it possible to import the euro roof rails and install them?
 
As I recall, I believe that someone looked into getting the euro rails - and found out it was very expensive & probably didn't fit anyway. Can't remember the site.
 
David

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