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#427 of 1263 Plum Mazda5
Nov 09, 2006 (1:00 am)
I contacted Mazda USA and they told me that they are not going to start manufacturing any 2007 Mazda 5's in the new plum color until January. They said that these will go on sale in March 2007 at the earliest.
They did tell me there is a black 2007 GT with a DVD on its way to Hawaii and a strato blue mica Touring just got in today. Unfortunately, all of the dealers in Hawaii start off marking vehicles up $4,000 to $8,000 over MSRP when they price things. So, it seems like you are getting a great deal when they tell you "$9,000 off" but most of the time, you end up back at the MSRP and not even close to invoice. The lowest price you can get is the Costco price which is invoice plus $900. This is even the number they are using for 2006 vehicles.
Ugh - the price of paradise
#428 of 1263 Just got an '07 Touring
Nov 09, 2006 (11:40 pm)
with Nav, automatic. Outstanding buying experience. $300 under invoice - $21K including pearl white charge and all weather floor mats, I didn't have to do hardly any bargaining.
So far car is excellent, no flaws at all.
#429 of 1263 Re: Just got an '07 Touring [tlong]
Nov 13, 2006 (8:39 pm)
tlong, I am seriously considering buying a GT, and have no idea how low is reasonable in my area. $300 under invoice sounds like a really great deal. Your price sounds like a U.S. price - what part of the country did you buy in?
#430 of 1263 What do you think of these prices??
Nov 15, 2006 (11:41 am)
I have two quotes from dealers in Hawaii. I know with three kids, I should get an MPV but I still can't get over the whole Soccer Mom/Minivan thing. We have a tiny one car carport and cannot fit anything wider than 73-74 inches so other minivans and most SUVs are out.
So far, nobody is marking down MPVs here. They are still way over invoice. Would it make a difference to wait until 2007?
From McKenna Mazda - 2007 Strato Blue Touring with cargo cover and rear bumper guard. $25,090 for the vehicle only (Per Edmunds MSRP is $20,810, invoice is $19,485, TMV is $21,123). Needless to say, this is a no go since it's about $4K over MSRP.
From JN Mazda - 2007 Phantom Blue Touring with cargo cover, rear bumper guard, floor mats and portfolio (?). $21,590 vehicle price (Per Edmunds, MSRP is $20,870, invoice is $19,533, TMV is $21,173). $22,939 OTD. I have not found any information on the portfolio option - does anyone know what this is or how much it cost? So, the price is about $700 over MSRP and about $2K over invoice.
The destination fee for Hawaii is $560 and as you can see, there is a dealer markup.
We are also waiting for quotes on the Grand Tourings.
Compared to what people are paying on the Mainland, these prices seem pretty high to me. I have been dealing with Thousand Oaks via e-mail so we may fly up to California and do the deal there since the prices are lower. It will cost us about $975-$1200 to ship though.
Any feedback would be appreciated. Also, if you have any other recommendations for dealers in California, preferably Southern California, I'd appreciate it.
#431 of 1263 Re: What do you think of these prices?? [okaasan]
Nov 15, 2006 (3:20 pm)
Re your prices - ouch, but its Hawaii
I'm in Southern Cal & bought from Thousand Oaks Dealer. You need to talk to the manager to get the best deal (he may not be in on weekdays - the sales guy can tell you when he is in). I bought in their loss-leader in the paper, which was $2000 below invoice and asked for a similar deal on the car we wanted - was able to get ~700 under invoice. If you do it at the towards the end of the month you have more leverage since they want to make quota. My guess is that you should be able to get a Mazda5 for around invoice if not below in SCal.
I'd check the LATimes for lost leaders for comparision (go to their website - classified section and search on Mazda - the vin number is posted in the ad, then you can use Mazda's site to look up the specific vehicles to check on color and other details.) The best prices are probably in the weekend papers. At least you'll know how much dealers are willing to go below invoice.
You should check your addons against this site http://www.finishlineperformance.com/mazda5/index.html which has free shipping for $150 and up (cargo cover is a good price).
I'd definitely suggest getting the windows tinted - I can recommend a place in Thousand Oaks - again this price is subject to negotiation - see what the dealer will charge & a local place. You probably should do some research as there are many types of film & brands.
#432 of 1263 New prices in Hawaii
Nov 15, 2006 (4:54 pm)
Thanks for the advice, David. I have been in contact with the internet sales manager from Thousand Oaks regarding an MPV. I e-mailed him to see if I can get some quotes on the Mazda 5.
Did you purchase a 2007 or 2006 Mazda 5? Was it a Touring or Sport model?
Do the car ads come out in the LA Times on Friday or Sunday?
The dealer who was at $25K for the vehicle sent us a new quote of $22,602.90 OTD. This is $21,290 for the vehicle which is still about $700 over invoice. I believe the Costco price that people are getting around town is $800 over invoice.
I sent this new quote to the 2nd dealer to see if they will go lower. I doubt if we will get anything close to $700 under invoice or even invoice so flying to California may be the way for us to go.
Thanks for the advice.
#433 of 1263 Re: Just got an '07 Touring [yad5]
Nov 15, 2006 (11:22 pm)
I bought in Southern California. If you happen to be in this area let me know and I can tell you about the dealership and salesperson.
#434 of 1263 Re: New prices in Hawaii [okaasan]
Nov 15, 2006 (11:26 pm)
Okaasan - I also bought at Thousand Oaks! It sounds like David and I are very close to each other. And I also know of a good tinting place in the area, perhaps even the same one David knows about.
The dealer was very good and I have a great salesperson at this dealership. I can't post names but if you want to know I can find a way to provide my email.
#435 of 1263 Re: New prices in Hawaii [okaasan]
Nov 16, 2006 (10:05 am)
My deal is in posting #398 - title is wrong, the price was 17,265 +TTL. I bought a 2006 Sport (2006 has longer 4-year bumper to bumper warranty, but shorter power train warranty).
I'm not sure when the ads come out - I'll check for you.
It appears that you're getting a decent price from your local dealer. If you bought in CA, you'd have to pay shipping $1000? + your airfare $600? + hassle of shipping. But you can go to DisneyLand .
Looks like Tlong (post #428) recently bought a touring with Nav for ~300 under invoice, so you're within $1000 difference right now, so it's cheaper overall for you to buy in Hawaii.
I'd wait on your local dealer until Nov 29th-30th and walk in ready to deal - they may need you to make quota. Probably some good deals on Thanksgiving weekend too.
#436 of 1263 Re: New prices in Hawaii [okaasan]
Nov 17, 2006 (8:55 am)
Today's (Friday) LA Times has Thousand Oaks Mazda selling a 06 Mazda5 for $14995 (6767/110061) - I think this is the manual tranmission black Mazda5 they have had a for a long time as a loss leader. There is also a 06 MPV for $15495 (7380/571589). These prices include rebates and $1000 for financing thru Mazda American Credit ("Factory rebates and MAC Bonus Cash in lieu of special APR"). This will give you an idea of how much they're willing to lose on a loss-leader ... or the games they're playing with financing .