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Re: MPG expectations not there yet. [sbsteggs]
by 5_more
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Feb 25, 2009 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: sbsteggs (Feb 25, 2009 11:09 am)
You never mentioned what kind of mileage you got on your Venture in the month or so before selling it -- on the same roads.
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Re: MPG expectations not there yet. [athenasius]
by 5_more
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Feb 25, 2009 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: athenasius (Feb 25, 2009 7:45 am)
Cool, can I ask where you got the fan that heats the car up that does not draw any power to run
I said the heat was free, not the air.
The air is almost free. Unless you open a window in the winter, you need the fan for fresh air to keep the windows from fogging. If it's above freezing the a/c helps too, but you have to pay for that.
Cheers
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Re: MPG expectations not there yet. [5_more]
by sbsteggs
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Feb 25, 2009 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: 5_more (Feb 25, 2009 7:12 pm)
I didn't track the Venture mileage, as I was to busy trying to keep it from falling apart while looking for another car.
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Re: MPG expectations not there yet. [sbsteggs]
by vg33e power
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Feb 26, 2009 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: sbsteggs (Feb 25, 2009 7:34 pm)
Bottom line, I honestly think that the low MPG your getting in you MZ5 is a combination of two things:
1. The Ethanol based gasoline you use
2. Your MZ5 is still new and although break in period is over (600miles) the engine itself is still fairly tight and not fully broken in.
IMHO.
20.5 MPG's rounds up to 21 which is what the city's rating EPA is for our MZ5 (automatic trans.) I own a 2006 MZ5 Touring Auto and I constantly get 22-23 and in a few occasions 20-21 mpg, unless I go on a long trip which then just barely reaches the 27-28mpg level, which is still close or right on the highway rating.
All in all, you are still ina better place with your MZ5 then any other MAV (read mini-van) because others such as the Sienna, Odyssey, Caravan are probably in the 16-18 mpg level for city and 24-26 highway. Plus MZ5's are just plain cool and sporty looking with great handling.
I wouldn't worry about it.
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Re: MPG expectations not there yet. [5_more]
by bobw3
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Feb 27, 2009 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: 5_more (Feb 24, 2009 5:29 pm)
I'm just being partially sarcastic. Making left turns also uses more gas than right turns, so maybe we need to plan our route better! Actually, turing the steering wheel uses more gas too, so we should take more straight trips! The main thing folks should try to do to save gas is go light on the gas pedal. By the time they're braking it's too late to save the gas.
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Re: MPG expectations not there yet. [bobw3]
by lcostantino
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Feb 27, 2009 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 27, 2009 2:26 pm)
Actually, turn the wheel all you like, I think our 5's have electric steering and not pump-driven steering off a belt - woo hoo!
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Re: MPG expectations not there yet. [lcostantino]
by tomas_elantra
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Feb 28, 2009 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: lcostantino (Feb 27, 2009 5:24 pm)
sbsteggs I guess it is what it is. The explanations make a bit of sence from the dealership, but then why am I getting 24-25mpg average with a brand new M5 like yourself? We have winter fuel mix here too, so my bet at this point is that the odometer is off a touch, which is nothing to worry about, just not what I would want to read if my car were brand new. And it's only a guess.
Now something I have noticed with my vehicle is when I am going about 50-60 and roll down the windows (the other day was warm and my 6yr old wanted to try out the windows) my ears hurt a bit, and my wife agreed... so is this normal?
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Re: MPG expectations not there yet. [tomas_elantra]
by tomas_elantra
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Feb 28, 2009 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: tomas_elantra (Feb 28, 2009 6:22 am)
Let me mention two other things along with my new Mazda ownership, one is when we stop and put the vehicle in PARK the car will roll a few inches back or forth unless we are on a completely flat surface, something I never experienced with an automatic before. Secondly the car has a slight engine vibration while waiting at a stoplight, if I put it in neutral or park it goes away?
Nothing big, just my new experiences on the vehicle. Anyone have the same on their M5?
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Re: Ear pain. [tomas_elantra]
by mohaha
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Feb 28, 2009 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: tomas_elantra (Feb 28, 2009 6:22 am)
I've definitely noticed the ear pain phenomenon. It's especially uncomfortable for me in the driver's seat when the only window opened is the front passenger window. The I assume it has something to do with the shape of the car, the path the air flow takes through the car, and perhaps a buildup of air pressure - though it still happens, to a lesser degree, when I simultaneously open the driver's window as well. Unfortunately, I don't have access to a wind tunnel to test my theories.
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Re: MPG expectations not there yet. [tomas_elantra]
by vg33e power
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Mar 02, 2009 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: tomas_elantra (Feb 28, 2009 9:04 am)
Completely normal on the car rolling after putting on park and letting the brake pedal go, HOWEVER, "highly" not reccomended, and it is the simple more frequent mistakes people make everyday and then complain about premature transmission failure. PLease do not park your vehicles without applying the parking brake. Most people get to their destination put their car on "P" let go of the brake pedal and either apply parking brake...or not and basically put the complete strain of the weight of the vehicle solely on the transmission. The correct way to do this is arrive, put on "P" fully apply parking brake (not this one two click thing) and then let go of the brake pedal, and voila, guess what no more rolling motion of the vehicle and not loud "clunk" when you are trying to get the darn thing unstuck from "P" because all the weight of the vehicle was resting on your tranny rather then being held by the parking brake.
Engine vibration on these engines is a normal characteristic that they posses. Is it bad? No Is it annoying at times? Yes. But it is one of those things you will have to live with, I learned to live with it and now I do not even notice it.
Wind buffeting noise is annoying on our MZ5 because the shape of the car. If you think the front windows make the buffeting noise try lowering the rears, its even worse. It will ususlly go away if you roll down a front window.
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