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#207 of 1124 Information finally on NHTSA
Sep 22, 2005 (1:19 pm)
Make : MAZDA Model : MAZDA5 Year : 2006
Manufacturer : MAZDA NORTH AMERICAN OPERATIONS
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 05V412000 Mfg's Report Date : SEP 16, 2005
Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:EXHAUST SYSTEM
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 5500
Please notice that only 5500 were estimated as affected. yet I believe
Mazda has sold 12,000. This taken to its logical conclusion, it might
be a problem with only one of the two trims (Touring or Sporting) or
similarly it may be an (manual versus automatic transmission).
Mazda should attach documents to the NHTSA Posting that specify
the problem (catalytic converter, coolant, or otherwise) because it
seems until now it is all speculation.
Still no information as to how or when the repairs will occur. Is there
an official Mazda newsgroup where updates are posted?
#208 of 1124 Re: Information finally on NHTSA [hkeogh]
Sep 22, 2005 (6:01 pm)
This still doesn't tell us what part is the problem and of course, there is no solution listed like the recall notice you posted earlier. I will be anxious to see the full details. I just checked my MazdaUSA page (where I registered) and the recall is not listed there yet.
BTW, where did you get the sales number of 12,000? I think I read somewhere here that less than 3000 had been delivered to customers. If that is the case, then 5500 could represent sold and on lot number. When I took my 5 in, I saw my salesman and he stated they were not even allowed to test drive them with customers at all. That makes me think that 5500 represents all that have left factory. Interesting, let us know if you find out more.
#209 of 1124 Re: Earlier Mazda 5/Premacy recall [hkeogh]
Sep 22, 2005 (7:11 pm)
The 2001 Premacy in the UK is in no way related to the 2006 Mazda5 or the 2006 Premacy in Japan.
#210 of 1124 I own a Mazda 5, live in US, and it was recalled
Sep 23, 2005 (6:45 am)
FYI - My dealer said they won't even let anyone test drive the Mazda 5's on the lot. Mine is sitting in their service center, waiting for a part. They told me it was an exhaust heat shield, and it would be 3 to 4 weeks before they received the replacement parts.
BTW, I love the car/van/space van/city van/whatever you want to call it. It drives like a car, has space like a van, and is getting better gas mileage than the sticker stated. I am getting about 26-27mpg in town...over 30 on the highway.
I can't wait to get it back...I am in a Jeep Liberty right now...noisy, gas gulping, and I feel too far away from the road.
#212 of 1124 Re: Earlier Mazda 5/Premacy recall [hkeogh]
Sep 23, 2005 (8:13 am)
I see the build date is is 30th June 2000.
This must be the old Mazda Premacy they had in Japan and Europe.
This is not for the "new" Mazda 5!!
#213 of 1124 My "Max" (Mazda5) was recalled, but I got a Toureg to hold me over! :-)
Sep 23, 2005 (12:30 pm)
So, after reading all about the recall here in the forum and then later at the official Mazdanews site, but before even receiving Mazda's letter, I took my "Max" (that's our Mazda5's name my family and I gave it) in to the service dealer so they can fix the whole recall issue. I miss my 5 so much! We really fell in love with that car. It's so perfect for us in every way.
In the meantime, since my dealer didn't have a loaner, they arranged for me to get a rental car from Enterprise. I made a point in saying that the whole reason I bought a 5 was because I needed room for my family of four, wanted to be comfortable and needed lots of storage room, so I wouldn't be happy with a regular car. I insisted I needed another minivan, an SUV, or at least a cool yet roomy wagon or hatch. But, they told me they didn't have anything available on the lot - just a bunch of crappy and/or boring sedans (nothing against sedans, just the ones they had were horrible) - or so they thought.
Way off in the corner of their lot was a VERY nice looking, blue, 2005 VW Toureg. I asked: "What about THAT car over THERE?!? THAT looks perfect!" The rep told me that they weren't able to give me that car because it was "damaged" and because it would surpass the allowance Mazda was paying anyway. I again insisted, very nicely and passively, of course, that I COULD NOT have a sedan and needed something that held five people comfortably and had lots of cargo room. So, I asked them: "What's the damage?" They simply said that one of the headlights was out. And I was like: "That's it?!"
So, I managed to get the manager out and he told me that he would be able to give me the Toureg under the condition: that I, myself, had to take it in to a garage to fix the headlight and then later be reimbursed by Enterprise. I definitely agreed to it. They also agreed to lower their corporate rate for the rental in order to fit the $50 a day allowance!!! They were great!
So...now I am driving around in a beautiful, blue Toureg with nice leather seats and an awesome interior and feeling like the king of the road. I took it in yesterday to a neighboring VW dealer to fix the "damage" and it turns out the headlight was covered under warranty, so I didn't need to pay a dime for it. Isn't all this cool? The Toureg, though, gets ATROCIOUS gas mileage - even with the V6 (you actually SEE the needle move!)
Well, I am excited about this and just wanted to share with other Mazda5 owners - we're a special breed. All the enterprise members said I wouldb't want my car back after driving the Toureg, but, call me crazy, I STILL much prefer driving my Max and miss "him" terribly. He's still MUCH more fun to drive, more comfortable, more fuel efficient, has a better ride and is cuter; and my wife, kids and I really do like him better than Tory (that's the Toureg's nickname now ). She's nice and all, but can't wait that LOOONG month to get my Max back!
#214 of 1124 Re: My "Max" (Mazda5) was recalled, but I got a Toureg to hold me over! :-) [nissmazlover]
Sep 23, 2005 (1:16 pm)
And we are calling our yellow rental Mazda3 with leather seats and moonroof our "minibus" because it's close to the yellow of the kids school bus. I'm having a lot of fun driving it even though it's an automatic, and we are getting good mileage. Still, my wife can't wait to get the 5 back. She's driving my Honda Hybrid while we have the rental. I'm .
#215 of 1124 Re: Confused or what [confusedbrit]
Sep 24, 2005 (6:25 am)
Don't be concerned about the recall in the UK. I read an article, on a site that can't be mentioned, and it said that the production halt was global but the recall does not apply to Japan and Europe because those vehicles have different engine configurations and control management units than NA.
#216 of 1124 Re: Research [wruberte]
Sep 24, 2005 (6:42 am)
Wish that this would have been handled a little better
though and that Mazda would give us complete details
of what the repairs will entail.
How could it be handled better? Mazda began notifying customers well before NHTSA got involved, they're offering loaner vehicles, albeit not always new vehicles, and they at least giving a potential timeframe for the fix. Think of how they could be leaving everyone out high and dry.
As for giving complete details of the fix, do you realize how far removed the dealers are from the engineering community? Just take solace in the fact that they are working on it. There's alot that needs to be done in a recall, regardless of how minor or major the flaw. Parts need to be redesigned, prototyped, tested (and not some quick evaluation, who wants a recall of a recall), produced for mass production, shipped to the parts distribution locales, then shipped to the dealers. Just be patient.
I sometimes wonder if everyone is reacting so negatively because their cars are so new, or just because of the general inconvenience. Would the same reaction be so prevalent if it was 2007 and the cars were 2 years old?