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#98 of 146 Re: Throttle Response [whobodym]
Jan 18, 2008 (11:49 am)
Howdy, I am first time poster and long time observer, and a new Mazda5 Grand Touring 2008 owner.
What you described is exactly the difference between throttle-by-wire vs wire systems. Part of the solution to lower emission and fuel efficiency is to minimize sudden throttle change, and by golly, throttle-by-wire is a great place for manufacturer to do this. It happens in BMW, it happens in Mazda.
There isn't much you can do other than adapt your driving style. Make sure your engine rpm dropes to the matching car speed before engaging your clutch should minimize upshift jerkiness. As for taking off, you can always try keeping a constant throttle and play with the clutch release to get a smooth start.
Hope this helps.
#99 of 146 Re: Regular service on Mazda5 [whobodym]
Jan 18, 2008 (2:20 pm)
Thanks for your greeting in mandarin.
Since you have an integra, may I ask how would you rate the MT in your 5 against your GSR besides the throttle response inconsistence?
I drove my friend's prelude (type SH) before only to get the feel of manual trans. Therefore, Mazda5 will be my first manual car, and probably my last one since I cannot afford to buy anything other than minivan due to increasing family size.
I would really want to enjoy the zoom-zoom provide the 5's manual trans can deliver that.
#100 of 146 Re: Regular service on Mazda5 [nihao4587]
Jan 18, 2008 (7:13 pm)
comparing all aspects of Mazda 5 vs Integra manual transmissions,
the Mazda clutch is better. engagement is smoother and less abrupt, and not any heavier pedal effort even though 5 has a bigger torquey-er engine. the Integra has a nicer shift linkage, smoother lighter and more precise. the 5 shift lever feels rubbery and vague in comparison. But overall, both are just fine as MT vehicles, no way would I want an auto, and I say that living in Seattle, a bad traffic hilly city. I think the MT is a good deal in terms of getting good performance out of the 5. Ours climbed I-90 Vantage grade in mid-WA-state last summer at 85mph in 5th with 5 people and cargo box. That sounds better than Consumer Reports saying the auto version "lacks reserve for passing and hills".
#101 of 146 Re: Throttle Response [thugus]
Jan 18, 2008 (7:49 pm)
I am thinking about buying a 2008 or 2009 Mazda5 Grand Touring, also (depending on how long either my car or my wife's car wants to keep running smoothly). I would be interested to know how your first year goes. Do you think you could provide some periodic updates with things you like or don't like about it? Thanks.
#102 of 146 Re: Throttle Response [dickthebutcher]
Jan 18, 2008 (8:11 pm)
gladly. we bought in March 2006 and now have 26,000 miles. I like the handling, maneuverability, nimble driving feel, cheap price, lots of features and gadgets, quiet engine for a 4 cylinder. I don't like only black interior, small inside rear view mirror, small rear window, wiper lever works "upside down", key fob feels flimsy, cubby holes are the wrong shape and in the wrong places (need handier storage for long thin things like maps and sunglass cases). I wanted even more gadgets, like 6 speed MT, LH/RH separate hvac thermostats, heated mirrors, heated seats, stability control. I actually would have bought a Mazdaspeed5 were there such a thing and it had a sunroof.
#103 of 146 Re: Throttle Response [whobodym]
Jan 19, 2008 (8:21 am)
What do you mean by "the wiper lever works upside down"? Just curious, is it works exactly the same and the wiper lever in our Toyota ECHO. I definitely agree about the cubbies in the 5. Again, that ECHO has spoiled us, but it would be nicer to have a few more cubbies. At least the glover box is freakishly large; techinchally the space is in the dash behind the glovebox. We currently have the Gigantic Manual, a power inverter, pluse a few other things back there with room to spare.
We have the Auto-Dimming/Compass mirror and it is nice and large, so perhaps that is a worthwhile options for others to consider.
As far as our first year goes ('07 Sport, Auto), thing are very nice.
-Plastic "metallic" trim around the controls and shifter. scratched and gouges too easiy
-Can be a little loud on the Highway with the OEM tires. Ironically our Snow tires seem quieter
-A little more storage space would be nice. I have prescription sunglasses and need a spot to hold my glasses case in case a switchover is needed.
-Quiet, Strong 4-cyl Engine (prenty of pull on a 2-lane highway with 4 adults onboad
-Flexible Interior. Easy to reconfigure for people/stuff. Enough room for a real person, esp with a child in the middle. Car seats are fairly easy to install as well.
-Respectable Fuel Economy. Returning 25-25.5 MPG in 50/50 driving in the middle of winter. My 30+ MPG ECHO is only giving 26MPG this winter, wheras the 5 seems unaffected. (well I secretly hope that summer will bring more like 30MPG in the 5 as well.
-Responsive handling. She really drives like a sports sedan, albeit a tall one. I've driven a 3 and the 5 isn't quite as sharp, but handles nearly as well if you push. It'll lean a bit into a corner, but still turn in nicely if you keep going.
#104 of 146 Re: Throttle Response [mrbwa1]
Jan 20, 2008 (5:53 pm)
Re the wiper lever, I'm a Honda loyalist so I expect a downwards push on the lever to give one swipe of wipers then off. Mazda does this going upwards instead, and down gives the always-on positions. I suppose I can get used to it, but it still annoys after 2 years.
#105 of 146 Re: Throttle Response [whobodym]
Jan 21, 2008 (8:16 am)
Ahhh... sorry to hear about the wiper lever. I guess I haven't driven enough Hondas. I used to work for Enterprise Rental and drove a lot of cars (no Hondas though) and all the wipers always used up for the swipe (if available). That is one of those annoying little quirks that I wish car manufacturers would agree on.
#106 of 146 Re: flickering audio lights [viper69]
Jan 29, 2008 (10:53 am)
The problem seemed to go away for a while so I didn't follow up. However it seems to be back. I should take it in to look at that as well as the cold suspension noise.
#107 of 146 wiper speed.
Jan 31, 2008 (4:04 pm)
Since we are on the subject of wipers, it seems that when the wiper is going, it sweeps a tad too fast, so the left wiper would *squirt* water to the right side. I checked on a Honda and BMW, and both sweeps slower, and also without the overspray action. Has anyone else notice this issue?
On a separate note, went to the dealership yesturday, and we got new black plastic tabs on the door, replaced the cargo cover (the first one never retracted). After 1.5hrs of fiddling around, the service manager reported that the heated seat switch part is not available, so we would have to come back when they have the part.
Other than that, the car is in great shape, and it is the prefered car for the whole family.