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Acura RL, Acura TL, Sedan
#2 of 166 Acura RL vs. Acura TL
Jul 21, 2005 (7:57 am)
Sorry to seem schizophrenic - I am having trouble making up my mind about what what car to buy, but am leaning towards the Acura RL. On the plus side, my wife and I negotiated an incredible deal for the RL and an MDX (Touring w/NAV). Total price for the two comes in at under $79K, if I pull the trigger now. But I am still uncertain.
Help me decide.
I am having to give up a six-speed since my bachelor days are over and my wife doesn't like to drive an MT, so that has me looking at near-to luxury cars like the RL. I love the new 330i, but a) there's no 330xi model available yet, and b) what's the point of an AT BMW? I also like the styling and ride of the M (and, for that matter, the G), but after reading here about disenchanted owners (and seeing my friend's Infiniti inexplicably burn-up three sets of front brakes in under 20,000 miles), I am skeptical about Infiniti. And the Lexus 300AWD - hot!, but tres cher!
So now I am looking at Acura, but can't decide between the RL and the TL. Doubtless the RL is a refined (and fine!) ride, and the Formula-1-ish paddle-shifters are intriguing (might almost make up for having to drive an AT!), but the styling ... I don't know: it looks a lot like an Accord (and a comparably equipped Accord is $20K cheaper, and technically roomier). Meanwhile, the styling of the TL is great, but I would prefer AWD to FWD. Is it worth the additional $12K, though?
Give me some advice!
#3 of 166 Re: Acura RL vs. Acura TL [timny]
Jul 21, 2005 (8:49 am)
How about the 530ix?
#4 of 166 Re: Acura RL vs. Acura TL [timny]
Jul 21, 2005 (8:50 am)
I negotiated an incredible deal for the RL and an MDX (Touring w/NAV). Total price for the two comes in at under $79K, if I pull the trigger now. But I am still uncertain. ... I also like the styling and ride of the M ... but after reading here about disenchanted owners
I'm currently debating the RL vs. the M35. The M35 entered the picture several months ago due to the overpriced nature of the RL (at the time). The newer heavily discounted prices on the RL is intriguing however. Your combined total price isn't much help evaluating the deal - how much is the RL part of it? The TL is a heck of a car and a good deal in and of itself (I'm even thinling of getting a TL and saving the money); I have been struggling since March to convince myself that the RL is worth ~$10K more than the TL - I'm not sure that it is
Your comments about disenchanted M owners is a bit puzzling; I have not gotten that impression at all here on Edmunds. Actually the RL is having a lot of QC issues that is being reported here and on other dedicated forums. The preponderance of reported issues with the RL is the Number 1 thing holding me back. I've more or less decided to forgo the '05 RL due to its problems and either get the new M35, wait on the '06 RL, or save the money and get a TL.
#5 of 166 Re: Acura RL vs. Acura TL [timny]
Jul 21, 2005 (8:55 am)
I bought my RL in October and absolutely love it. A good friend just bought a TL and I've ridden in it a number of times. My take:
Both are great cars. The TL is especially great considering the price.
I prefer the TL's styling to the RL's, though the longer I drive my RL, the more I appreciate the styling.
The AWD in the RL really sells it for me.
One of my few complaints about the RL is the somewhat choppy ride. The TL's ride is even choppier - much more of a sports car feel.
I don't believe the TL is as quiet as the RL.
The nav system on the RL is the best there is. While the nav system on the TL is very similar, it isn't as easy to operate as the RL's.
Aside from those items, either car would be a great car for you.
#6 of 166 Re: Acura RL vs. Acura TL [timny]
Jul 21, 2005 (9:00 am)
Some advise you ask... Well...at a packaged price of $79k for the RL and MDX. Effectively you are paying $36k for the MDX after what should be about $43k for the RL. Is it great? Pretty good but not where that should be your decision point.
RL vs TL. I driven both and decided on the TL. The AWD is nice, but I found enough road bite with the TL. The RL to me is trying to compete with the luxury sports sedan of Lexus LS and maybe the BMW 5...but I found the amenities of the TL to be comparable to both just mentioned. Cabin size of the RL might be roomier...but it just didn't fit the profile needs and wants I seeked.
As for the paddle shifters....I am not a big big fan....and should not be a decision maker and a novelty that the up coming Lexus IS330 is trying to push. Somewhat interesting...but you can also do the same with the TL sequential-shifter...where you can mimic manual shifting with the fine TL automatic.
Although the RL is a fine bargain at $43k...is it worth the additional $12k above the TL? You have to make that decision after multiple test drives...I selected the TL. If I was considering a mid-$40k sports sedan...I might even pony up a few additional dollars and consider the Lexus GS series. Either way...it is very difficult to beat the performance, amentities and value proposition of a TL.
#7 of 166 Re: Acura RL vs. Acura TL [msu79gt82]
Jul 21, 2005 (12:24 pm)
Can you elaborate more on the QC issues you know about the RL? Do you know of similar issues for the TL?
#8 of 166 Re: Acura RL vs. Acura TL [delmar1]
Jul 21, 2005 (12:26 pm)
Interestingly, the sales agent blurted out that if the TL has AWD, they'd sell no RLs at all ... then he quickly back-pedaled on his statement.
#9 of 166 Re: Acura RL vs. Acura TL [delmar1]
Jul 21, 2005 (12:27 pm)
TL = 35
RL = 44
#10 of 166 Re: Acura RL vs. Acura TL [timny]
Jul 21, 2005 (5:52 pm)
The Acura dealer told me that the RL is selling so poorly becuase it looks just like an Accord, and the TL is just too much of a value. IMHO the RL is not worth thousands more than the TL.