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#11 of 2966
Three rows by sandpaper
Aug 01, 2005 (10:04 pm)
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I can't see why Hyundai wouldn't offer 3 rows standard, unless they want to undercut the competition by a wide amount in the GL trim. From my knowledge, doesn't the Pilot have it standard?
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Re: Three rows [sandpaper] by mike_belknap
Aug 02, 2005 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: sandpaper (Aug 01, 2005 10:04 pm)

"...doesn't the Pilot have it standard?"
 
Yes -- as do the Mazda CX-7, Nissan Pathfinder, Mitsubishi Montero, and Suzuki XL-7. On the other hand, the Toyota Highlander, Subaru B9 Tribeca, Buick Rendezvous, and Ford Explorer don't; while the Mitsubishi Endeavor, Nissan Murano, Pontiac Aztek, Chevrolet Equinox|Saturn Vue V6|Pontiac Torrent, and regular-length Chevrolet TrailBlazer do not offer 3rd rows at all. Because of this and undercutting factor (as you pointed out), there was some ambiguity concerning how the Santa Fe would be equipped.
 
Mike
#13 of 2966
2007 Santa Fe will be a contender for top 3 ranking by vrm
Aug 02, 2005 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: mike_belknap (Jul 16, 2005 9:31 pm)

The all new 2007 Santa Fe is going to be an exciting vehicle. Top notch fit and finish with a standard safety package which will put the great Toyota to shame.
 
Toyota is scrambling to respond to this safety standardization initiative from Hyundai and Honda. The racked their brains and viola - "the Star safety system" is their new marketing slogan.
 
Where was this "Star" system two years ago? Toyota had the audacity to bundle safety features in "packages". Want side air-bags? Buy package # 5.
 
If you are in the market for a SUV, I suggest you wait till the 2007 Santa Fe goes on sale. You will not be disappointed. And yes, dont insult your intelligence by falling for the "Star" marketing system.
#14 of 2966
Third row by guyf
Aug 04, 2005 (3:35 pm)
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As far as we can see from the pictures, the third row occupants have the back of their head inches from the rear window. Could be nasty in a rear end collision.
 
The rest of the vehicle looks light years ahead of the current Santa-Fe however.
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New Santa Fe size? by jshin
Aug 12, 2005 (7:13 am)
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Here are another spy shots,
 
1. compare with current Santa Fe (dress-up bumper and grille, hood scoop for turbo diesel(korean version))
http://kr.img.dc.yahoo.com/b4/data/car/1123819720.jpg
 
2. compare with Kia Sedona
http://kr.img.dc.yahoo.com/b4/data/car/special1091672159.jpg
 
I think the size of new Santa Fe might be similar to that of Honda Pilot or Nissan Murano.
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Re: New Santa Fe size? [jshin] by mike_belknap
Aug 12, 2005 (11:26 pm)
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Replying to: jshin (Aug 12, 2005 7:13 am)

Yeah, it's definitely larger. The only preliminary measurement I have is a width of 76.6", and I'm not sure if that's accurate or not (though it seems to be). For comparison, consider the following measurements:
 
Saturn Vue V6: 71.5
Toyota Highlander: 71.9
Ford Explorer: 72.1
Lexus RX330: 72.6
Hyundai Santa Fe (SM): 72.7
Kia Sorento: 73.3
Buick Rendezvous: 73.6
Mitsubishi Endeavor: 73.6
BMW X5: 73.7
Subaru B9 Tribeca: 73.9
Nissan Murano: 74.0
Ford Freestyle: 74.4
Chevrolet TrailBlazer: 74.7
Volkswagen Touareg: 75.9
Dodge Durango: 76.0
Hyundai Santa Fe (CM): 76.6
Acura MDX: 77.0
Honda Pilot: 77.3
Chrysler Pacifica: 79.3
 
The length, wheelbase, track, height, curb weight, payload and towing capacities will all see increases as well. Overall, I think it will be closest to the Acura MDX inside and out.
 
Mike
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This may sound a little by marsha7
Aug 13, 2005 (5:30 pm)
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off topic, but I do believe it is relevant...a friend of mine, who does not like Japanese cars, but is enthralled with American and Korean cars, states the following to me:
 
Japanese cars use thinner weaker steel for their body parts, so they practically self-destruct in a collision, whereas American and Korean cars use thicker steel and their cars/trucks are sturdier in a collision.
 
I know this is BS, but I have no source to document...while I believe Korean cars are sturdy, I also believe the same about Japanese cars...any sources out there to prove him wrong, aside from my personal opinion???
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Re: This may sound a little [marsha7] by mike_belknap
Aug 13, 2005 (10:59 pm)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Aug 13, 2005 5:30 pm)

Absolutely - check out the crash test results on this site. Below are some stats that I've calculated for you:
Automobiles rated "Good" in the category of Structure/Safety Cage after the 40-mph offset crash test:
 
American Brand-base - 65 tested; 54% rated "Good"
  Buick: 4/7
  Cadillac: 3/3
  Chevrolet: 5/12
  Chrysler: 1/4
  Dodge: 2/6
  Ford: 6/9
  GMC: 1/4
  Jeep: 1/2
  Lincoln: 3/3
  Mercury: 4/5
  Pontiac: 3/6
  Saturn: 2/4
 
British Brand-base - 3 tested; 100% rated "Good"
  Jaguar: 1/1
  Land Rover: 1/1
  Mini: 1/1
 
German Brand-base - 13 tested; 85% rated "Good"
  Audi: 2/2
  BMW: 3/3
  Mercedes-Benz: 3/3
  Volkswagen: 3/5
 
Japanese Brand-base - 56 tested; 88% rated "Good"
  Acura: 4/4
  Honda: 5/6
  Infiniti: 4/4
  Isuzu: 0/1
  Lexus: 6/6
  Mazda: 2/5
  Mitsubishi: 5/5
  Nissan: 6/7
  Subaru: 3/3
  Suzuki: 5/6
  Toyota: 9/9
 
South Korean Brand-base - 9 tested; 44% rated "Good"
  Hyundai: 2/4
  Kia: 2/5
 
Swedish Brand-base - 6 tested; 100% rated "Good"
  Saab: 2/2
  Volvo: 4/4
 
Automobiles rated "Good" in the category of Structure/Safety Cage after the 31-mph side-impact crash test:
 
American Brand-base - 13 tested; 8% rated "Good"
  Chevrolet: 0/3
  Chrysler: 0/1
  Dodge: 0/2
  Ford: 0/2
  Jeep: 1/1
  Mercury: 0/1
  Saturn: 0/3
 
British Brand-base - 2 tested; 0% rated "Good"
  Jaguar: 0/1
  Land Rover: 0/1
 
German Brand-base - 5 tested; 40% rated "Good"
  Audi: 1/2
  Mercedes-Benz: 0/1
  Volkswagen: 1/2
 
Japanese Brand-base - 24 tested; 4% rated "Good"
  Acura: 0/1
  Honda: 0/3
  Infiniti: 0/1
  Lexus: 0/1
  Mazda: 0/3
  Mitsubishi: 1/3
  Nissan: 0/3
  Subaru: 0/2
  Suzuki: 0/4
  Toyota: 0/3
 
South Korean Brand-base - 5 tested; 0% rated "Good"
  Hyundai: 0/3
  Kia: 0/2
 
Swedish Brand-base - 4 tested; 0% rated "Good"
  Saab: 0/2
  Volvo: 0/2
 
Mike
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Additional info... by mike_belknap
Aug 16, 2005 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: mike_belknap (Aug 13, 2005 10:59 pm)

As for those vehicles rated "Good" overall in the offset test:
 
American Brand-base - 65 tested; 54% rated "Good" overall
  Buick: 4/7
  Cadillac: 3/3
  Chevrolet: 5/12
  Chrysler: 2/4
  Dodge: 2/6
  Ford: 7/9
  GMC: 1/4
  Jeep: 0/2
  Lincoln: 3/3
  Mercury: 5/5
  Pontiac: 3/6
  Saturn: 2/4
  
British Brand-base - 3 tested; 67% rated "Good" overall
  Jaguar: 1/1
  Land Rover: 0/1
  Mini: 1/1
  
German Brand-base - 13 tested; 100% rated "Good" overall
  Audi: 2/2
  BMW: 3/3
  Mercedes-Benz: 3/3
  Volkswagen: 5/5
  
Japanese Brand-base - 56 tested; 82% rated "Good" overall
  Acura: 4/4
  Honda: 6/6
  Infiniti: 4/4
  Isuzu: 0/1
  Lexus: 6/6
  Mazda: 2/5
  Mitsubishi: 4/5
  Nissan: 6/7
  Subaru: 3/3
  Suzuki: 2/6
  Toyota: 9/9
  
South Korean Brand-base - 9 tested; 44% rated "Good" overall
  Hyundai: 3/4
  Kia: 1/5
  
Swedish Brand-base - 6 tested; 100% rated "Good" overall
  Saab: 2/2
  Volvo: 4/4
  
Automobiles rated "Good" overall in the side-impact crash test:
  
American Brand-base - 13 tested; 23% rated "Good" overall
  Chevrolet: 1/3
  Chrysler: 0/1
  Dodge: 0/2
  Ford: 1/2
  Jeep: 0/1
  Mercury: 1/1
  Saturn: 0/3
  
British Brand-base - 2 tested; 0% rated "Good" overall
  Jaguar: 0/1
  Land Rover: 0/1
  
German Brand-base - 5 tested; 60% rated "Good" overall
  Audi: 2/2
  Mercedes-Benz: 0/1
  Volkswagen: 1/2
  
Japanese Brand-base - 24 tested; 42% rated "Good" overall
  Acura: 1/1
  Honda: 2/3
  Infiniti: 1/1
  Lexus: 1/1
  Mazda: 1/3
  Mitsubishi: 1/3
  Nissan: 0/3
  Subaru: 1/2
  Suzuki: 0/4
  Toyota: 2/3
  
South Korean Brand-base - 5 tested; 0% rated "Good" overall
  Hyundai: 0/3
  Kia: 0/2
  
Swedish Brand-base - 4 tested; 25% rated "Good" overall
  Saab: 1/2
  Volvo: 0/2
  
Mike

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