Last post on Nov 25, 2008 at 2:57 PM
You are in the Honda Civic
What is this discussion about?
Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Mazda MAZDA3, Sedan
#89 of 879 A Mazda by any other name ... [legalpenguin]
Sep 14, 2005 (8:55 am)
I wouldn't rate the Mazda3 as being equal or in the same league as a Civic especially since the Mazda3 is pretty new. Over the long haul of ownership, I can see the Civic outlasting the Mazda3. The same with a Corolla. (Because I've owned Toyotas (Corollas and Camrys) for 16 years with no problems. And I bought Honda because I've heard no complaints from owners who I have talked to.)
Are you aware that the Mazda3 is the successor to the Mazda Protege (1990-2003), which was the successor to the Mazda 323/GLC (1977-1990s). In other words, Mazda3 is only the latest name of a long pedigree of reliable compact cars produced by Mazda. For an excellent history of Japanese vehicles, see Wanda James' Driving from Japan (Jefferson, NC; London : McFarland, 2005)
#90 of 879 Thank you, autonomous.
Sep 14, 2005 (9:37 am)
Yep, I've owned five Mazdas in the Protege/3 line since September 1991. Two of them are in my driveway right now. So, fourteen years is my history with Mazda, all as reliable as Toyotas and Hondas. BTW, I've owned Toyota and Honda products as well. I wonder if legalpenguin has owned all three as well, so he can speaketh from experience and not just hearsay.
And yes, this IS a comparison discussion. Legalpenguin, methinks thou believeth thou is in the Civic discussion. Readeth the title of this discussion again.
#91 of 879 Re: A Mazda by any other name ... [autonomous]
Sep 14, 2005 (9:44 am)
Sorry, but that still doesn't tell me that Mazda is better than a Civic. Civics have consistently been in the Best Buy categories of research firms for years. What do you think "Best Buy" means? It means you get more than your money's worth in all aspects. It's rated excellent year after year in ownership costs.
I'd rather keep my Honda Civic. I bought a Special Edition LX for under $15,000. I definitely did get my money's worth and more.
Way back when I looking for cars on numerous occasions, I came across a Mazda 323 and Mazda Proteges. Test drove them, but for some reason they just didn't hold my attention like the Toyotas and Hondas when it came to doing my detailed research on all categories.
#92 of 879 Re: OK, the specs are in! [iwantonetoo]
Sep 14, 2005 (9:45 am)
Good Lord, I just went to prove you wrong, and found that Honda's own website lists a third and completely different set of dimensions for the Civic EX sedan -- different from yours and mine! I hope the following link works -- if not, just go to Honda.com and drill your way down to the Civic and its interior specs:
Will the REAL CIVIC please stand up, for goodness' sake?!
#93 of 879 Re: Thank you, autonomous. [mdaffron]
Sep 14, 2005 (9:49 am)
Meade, the subcategory is a comparison, but the main category of all these subcategories here is specifically Honda so that's what it leans toward the most. So I believe if you must be technical about this issue, methinks it is still a Honda Civic forum.
I speak from experience as well. I've owned Chevy and Mazda (in high school) and then moved up to Toyota and now Honda. I can clearly see the differences.
#94 of 879 legalpenguin
Sep 14, 2005 (10:52 am)
"Way back when I looking for cars on numerous occasions, I came across a Mazda 323 and Mazda Proteges. Test drove them, but for some reason they just didn't hold my attention like the Toyotas and Hondas when it came to doing my detailed research on all categories. "
Meade was interested in why you feel that the Civic gives you more for your money than the Mazda3, and I too am interested. Specifically, why do you think you get more for your money? What are you getting with the Civic that you're not getting with the Mazda3? Are you talking about tangible things? I'm interested.
"Meade, the subcategory is a comparison, but the main category of all these subcategories here is specifically Honda so that's what it leans toward the most."
This is the path to get to this forum:
forums/sedan/Comparisons sedans vs. sedans
The path is at the top of the page along with the title of the discussion. This is not an exclusively Honda Civic forum.
#95 of 879 Re: Thank you, autonomous. [legalpenguin]
Sep 14, 2005 (11:00 am)
Legalpenguin, I'm sure you are new enough around here that you haven't figured out the admittedly idiosyncratic structure here and there's nothing wrong with that.
You are most likely going to a "view" of discussions that include the Civic. The reality is that what you see is a filtered list, it's not a "main category" or a "forum" or anything like that, it's just a filtered list of every discussion that involves the Civic.
This discussion is a comparison of the Civic, Corolla and Mazda3. If you filter your view by any of the three of them, this discussion will appear on the list.
Lots of people get confused by this, don't worry about it. But do understand that this no more an exclusively Honda/Civic-related discussion than it is a Mazda/Mazda3 or Toyota/Corolla-related discussion.
If you follow the "breadcrumb" trail at the top (or the bottom) of this page, as newcar31 suggests, you will see the actual physical structure, which in this case is a Sedans Comparisons board which is actually a subfolder of the Sedans board. But you don't have to do that if you don't want to.
Hope this helps!
#96 of 879 Re: OK, the specs are in! [mdaffron]
Sep 14, 2005 (11:29 am)
The link you provided is for the 2005 Civic. I posted specs from an actual brochure from a Honda dealer, hopefully it is correct, but you never know!
#97 of 879 Re: legalpenguin [newcar31]
Sep 14, 2005 (12:34 pm)
newcar31, I already answered the question you keep nagging me about. See my prior messages again.
You guys sure take these boards way too seriously! I'm not changing my mind. I did way too much research before I made the decision to buy my Honda and worked with dealers diligently to get such an excellent deal. I definitely did get more than my money's worth!