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Re: Civic MPG's [backy]
by moocow1
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Jun 13, 2008 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 13, 2008 12:11 pm)
I never really noticed this economy sedan comparison but it brings home the reason I have to say this rule. Friends don't let friends buy corollas. Please follow it everyone  Gotta drop that ridiculous 50k per month corolla purchasing streak. Get everyone into those Mazda3, Civics, Rabbits, Elantras, etc!
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=126610
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- #816 of 879
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Re: Civic MPG's [moocow1]
by backy
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Jun 13, 2008 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: moocow1 (Jun 13, 2008 12:38 pm)
LOL. Someone could do a lot worse than a Corolla (Forenza, maybe?). It's not that it's a bad car, right? But it just doesn't stand out in the crowd any more, IMO, and especially not at its asking price. If you hadn't noticed, Civics and Elantras are selling like hotcakes too. And some others. All are benefitting from the shift to smaller, more economical cars.
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- #817 of 879
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Re: Civic MPG's [backy]
by moocow1
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Jun 13, 2008 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 13, 2008 1:00 pm)
I just think everyone benefits if toyota doesn't collect massive sales from selling mediocre cars.
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Re: Civic MPG's [moocow1]
by backy
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Jun 13, 2008 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: moocow1 (Jun 13, 2008 1:27 pm)
Have you looked at Focus sales lately? It's not just Toyota getting away with selling mediocre cars...
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Re: Civic MPG's [moocow1]
by thegraduate
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Jun 13, 2008 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: moocow1 (Jun 13, 2008 12:00 pm)
Acura doesn't offer a 6-speed auto either, by the way, not that its on topic. Honda isn't leading the way across the board! Just clearing that up. 
Have a great weekend everyone!
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Re: Civic MPG's [moocow1]
by aviboy97
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Jun 14, 2008 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: moocow1 (Jun 13, 2008 12:00 pm)
I've heard at the Mazda "water cooler" that the 2009 Mazda3 will put a 5-speed auto in the next gen Mazda3i (thank god, it needs one!!!) Also, possibly a 6-speed manual for the s model.
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Re: Civic MPG's [backy]
by cz75
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Jun 14, 2008 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 13, 2008 1:30 pm)
At least you expect a mediocre car when you buy a Ford.
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Re: Civic MPG's [cz75]
by backy
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Jun 14, 2008 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: cz75 (Jun 14, 2008 9:26 am)
Don't forget that the Mazda3 is, in effect, a "Ford." But hardly mediocre.
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- #823 of 879
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Re: Civic MPG's [backy]
by moocow1
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Jun 15, 2008 (12:26 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 13, 2008 1:30 pm)
Focus is still only 1/3 the sales of a Corolla. And honestly, the car isn't that much worse than a corolla. The interior is about even, the technology with sync is better, and the driving dynamics are basically 2000 sporty vs 2009 mushy. Not exactly a huge advantage for toyota. And most people with any information would know it's not a good driving car these days, it's for the silly features and the mpg.
And while Ford owns a chunk of Mazda, mazda still does whatever they want with the cars...their engineering for driving dynamics is just plain better. Also only the european focus uses the same platform until redesign.
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Re: Civic MPG's [moocow1]
by backy
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Jun 15, 2008 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: moocow1 (Jun 15, 2008 12:26 am)
I wouldn't call the 2009 Corolla "mushy". But it does have an exceptionally smooth, quiet ride for a small car. A good tradeoff compared to crisp handlers with firmer rides like the Civic and Mazda3, IMO.
At least the Corolla offers all the latest safety technology--unlike the Civic and Mazda3i. And Focus.
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