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Honda Civic vs Toyota Corolla vs Mazda3

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3 has won me.... by usfcrim76
May 21, 2008 (3:43 pm)
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Took a test drive in an I Touring value and a new civic last week. The Mazda wins hands down. I couldn't believe how quiet the 3 was over the Civic, the advantage of features over the Civic, and the $3k price advantage of the Mazda. Only two things the Civic has advantage is the keyless entry is all enclosed in the key vs. the key fob of the Mazda, and the lack of a grey interior on the 3. Neither will deter me from buying a 3 come the end of July or August.
 
Oh and the Civic is $260 more a year insurace vs. the Mazda $150 more a year than what i'm paying now.
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Re: 3 has won me.... [usfcrim76] by backy
May 21, 2008 (4:19 pm)
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Replying to: usfcrim76 (May 21, 2008 3:43 pm)

...the keyless entry is all enclosed in the key vs. the key fob of the Mazda...
 
I'm not a fan of the fad to include the keyless remote buttons with the keys. That tends to make the keys bigger and more expensive to replace. With a separate key and fob, it's no problem geting a replacement key at your neighborhood hardware store for a couple of bucks, and a replacement fob at a low price on eBay etc. Where can you get the fancy keys with integrated remote control except from dealers?
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Re: 3 has won me.... [backy] by thegraduate
May 21, 2008 (4:43 pm)
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Replying to: backy (May 21, 2008 4:19 pm)

Who is replacing their keys regularly?
 
I like the integrated key; back in my last house all I carried was the key. I had a garage door opener and a spare back door key in the car. No need for a keychain.
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Re: 3 has won me.... [thegraduate] by backy
May 21, 2008 (5:22 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 21, 2008 4:43 pm)

Ah, to be young and carefree again, with no need for any other keys (and a house where the power never goes out)! Wait until you are married a few years... and maybe have a spouse who has a problem keeping track of keys. Then get back to us.
 
To be honest, I usually just carry a car key on the keyfob chain. But one of my keys is a $1.75 copy from the hardware store (DW lost the other one). And one of the keyfobs is a $22 job I got from eBay (DW lost the other one). Over the past five years I've had to replace half a dozen car keys and keyfobs. Keeping track of those things is just not one of DW's priorities.
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Re: 3 has won me.... [backy] by thegraduate
May 21, 2008 (7:19 pm)
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Replying to: backy (May 21, 2008 5:22 pm)

Ah, to be young and carefree again, with no need for any other keys (and a house where the power never goes out)!
 
Does your key have an immobilizer chip? $1.75 is CHEAP!
 
Also, notice I said a spare door key was in the car too.
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Re: 3 has won me.... [backy] by aviboy97
May 22, 2008 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: backy (May 21, 2008 5:22 pm)

You must not have a computerized key then. You can get a computer key for around $20 or so on eBay (depending on make), however, it is the labor charge to program it that is a killer. The average computer key cut and program is around $100 or more.
 
Also, if one looses their key, the fob is most likely with it, so both are in need of replacement. I am a fan of the all-in-one key and fob. Takes up less room in my pocket!
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Re: 3 has won me.... [aviboy97] by backy
May 22, 2008 (7:48 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 22, 2008 6:33 am)

Depends on how big those keys-with-buttons are. Some are REALLY big, which I've noticed with some rentals, and they are a pain to stick in my pants pocket. The Civic's isn't that big from what I recall. Key-with-fob folds into a tidy package.
 
I am not a fan of computerized keys either. If I lose a regular key and fob, it's a couple of bucks per key (if I am smart and have a house key on the ring also) plus around $20 or so for the fob in eBay land. Some are user-programmable, some are not.
 
If I didn't have this domestic problem of having keys/fobs lost on a regular basis, I might like the integrated fobs more also. But such is life.
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Re: 3 has won me.... [backy] by busiris
May 22, 2008 (1:46 pm)
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Replying to: backy (May 22, 2008 7:48 am)

Man, I know what you mean about the keys with attached fobs. I have a Z4, and the key is a pocketfull. It doesn't take long for it to cause wear inside the pants pocket. When I walk into the house with it in my pocket, my wife thinks I'm really happy to see her...
 
Conversly, I really like my 08 Altima keyless fob key. It is slightly larger than other manufacturer fobs, but it has no key attached, and can simply saty in my pocket the entire time.
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Civic/Mazda/Corolla by cottoncb
May 25, 2008 (6:10 am)
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Reading these posts I now know how so many car companies can stay in business - there are as many reasons to choose a particular car as there are models to choose from!
 
I've owned a couple of Hondas and my wife has a Mazda 6 that she loves. I'm down to the Civic and the Mazda3 although I will have to say the price of the Focus was very tempting. But, as Warren Buffet said; "Price is what you pay, but value is what you get."
 
After driving the above 3, I'd add that I've eliminated the 09 Corolla because of the steering. It felt like it would "hang" slightly when trying to correct for drift, resulting in a slight over-correction - very disturbing.
 
Right now I'm leaning toward the Honda but that could change after I do a little more research.
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Re: Civic MPG's [smallcar1] by honshu
Jun 12, 2008 (5:36 am)
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Replying to: smallcar1 (May 14, 2008 7:38 pm)

I am a little biased, I have been lucky enough to test drive a civic, and the corolla '09 model. I am in Canada so some things here may not relate to you.
 
Insurance
 
1. Corolla is the cheapest in Insurance compared to the Civic. The Civic is ranked #1 as the most stolen car in North America, and secondly it is considered as a sport sedan. The Corolla is one of the least stolen cars, and it is classified as a family mid-size sedan now. The insurance for a driver that has a clean driving record for 6 years continuously, has completed a governement certified driving school, and advance snow driving schools, University Grad, Engineer, does not smoke and is 33 years old, will be paying $150 a month for the Civic, in turn the same person would be paying $130 a month for the Corolla. All terms and benefits are exactly the same.
 
GAS
 
2. Gas economy is almost identical, but with the Corolla, instead of racing down to the red light, let it cruise down to it by slapping it down to neutral. Saves at least another 30% gas, where the civic only saves 10%.
 
Passengers,Luggage,and Packages.
 
3. It can fit all 5 people and at least 6 peices of fullsize luggages. In addition It can fit 3 child car seats in the back perfectly.
 
4. Would be able to haul a full kingsize mattress on the roof and the un-assembled bed frame inside the car with the seats folded down, but allowing only 1 passenger.
 
MODIFICATIONS
 
5. Many aftermarket products available for both products.
6. Police would check civics more than Corollas.
7. Corolla's is like an appliance, where it is gauranteed to turn on.
8. A Corolla has more survivability and drivability after low velocity accidents compared to Civics. You can drive a damaged front end corolla at least 25km to a repair location with fluids dripping (just as long it is not the gas) safely.
 
I have been driving Corolla's since 1998-2008. Driving my friends Civic for the least 4 years on and off.

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