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Honda Civic vs Toyota Corolla vs Mazda3

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What is this discussion about? Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Mazda MAZDA3, Sedan


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Re: Civic vs. Corolla vs. Mazda3 [bpizzuti] by backy
May 11, 2008 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (May 11, 2008 10:44 am)

Now you're comparing apples to oranges--FWD vs. AWD. So as you say, let's get back to the 3 FWD cars in the topic. None of which is AWD. If you want that, you need to go someplace else.
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Re: Looking at these 3 cars [jjanders] by aviboy97
May 12, 2008 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: jjanders (Apr 30, 2008 11:20 am)

Mazda is the sportiest of the bunch but terrible mileage for automatic,
 
Over 30mpg's for a 2.0L with 148hp is not terrible.
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Re: Looking at these 3 cars [aviboy97] by thegraduate
May 12, 2008 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 12, 2008 8:28 am)

The compact Mazda 3 with 148 hp gets the same highway mileage as a midsize Altima with 175 hp, and Accord with 190 hp. 23 in town is equal to the Altima as well, with the CVT. That's actually pretty amazing for Nissan, although off-topic, so I'll leave it alone.
 
Give it the 5-speed, Mazda. These things spin way too high RPMs on the interstate.
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Re: Looking at these 3 cars [thegraduate] by bpizzuti
May 12, 2008 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 12, 2008 8:42 am)

It was always that way..with the 4-speed too. The 2.3 engine just doesn't have that much low-end torque...I love that Nissan engine, but they won't attach VSC to it.
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Re: Looking at these 3 cars [bpizzuti] by thegraduate
May 12, 2008 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (May 12, 2008 9:20 am)

The Civic and Corolla both have low-rpm cruising gears while having less torque than the Mazda, which has an extra 500cc of displacement. Mazda just chooses not to allow it!
 
And, I meant they should put the 5-speed auto in the 2.0 model.
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Re: Looking at these 3 cars [thegraduate] by aviboy97
May 12, 2008 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 12, 2008 8:42 am)

Mazda's new 2.5 gets 30 highway, 23 city (I think) with 170hp. Pretty much on par with most other mfrgs. But, since it is not in the Mazda3 yet, no sense talking about it.
 
My main point was that the fuel economy in the Mazda3 i is not "terrible" It's not class leading, but far from terrible. It's not like it's a Hemi or anything. Many owners report getting mid 30's on the highway.
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Re: Looking at these 3 cars [aviboy97] by thegraduate
May 12, 2008 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 12, 2008 9:30 am)

No doubt; it's certainly not terrible. You summed it up well. I'd take a Mazda 3 2.0 over a lot of other offerings in the class; the Corolla for starters!
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2.0 Fuel economy by aviboy97
May 12, 2008 (11:26 am)
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Since we are talking about 2.0L engines, and Nissan was mentioned (Altima), I think even though the Sentra is not listed in the thread title, I don't think anyone would have an issue with me talking about it.
 
The Nissan Sentra 2.0L gets 24/31 w/ auto(25/33 w/ CVT) 140hp/147tq. The Mazda3 2.0L gets 23/30 w/ auto (24/32 w/ manual) 148hp/135tq. Pretty much dead even.
 
It seems both Nissan and Mazda would benefit with having their more powerful / fuel efficient 2.5L in these cars.
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Re: 2.0 Fuel economy [aviboy97] by thegraduate
May 12, 2008 (11:31 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 12, 2008 11:26 am)

Nissan has the 2.5 in the SE-R Sentra, making 180hp. Doesn't it?
 
I believe there is a $16k-$20k forum we could go wake up! Wanna join me?
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Re: 2.0 Fuel economy [thegraduate] by aviboy97
May 12, 2008 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 12, 2008 11:31 am)

I'm in!

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