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Honda Civic vs Toyota Corolla vs Mazda3

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What is this discussion about? Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Mazda MAZDA3, Sedan


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Re: Reliability Issues on the Corolla [zzoomp09] by nvbanker
Apr 10, 2008 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: zzoomp09 (Apr 09, 2008 7:49 pm)

I think the 3 has the fun (zoom zoom) thing clocked best, of the three.
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Absolutely! by sandman46
Apr 11, 2008 (4:37 pm)
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The Sandman
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Re: Reliability Issues on the Corolla [zzoomp09] by aviboy97
Apr 14, 2008 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: zzoomp09 (Apr 09, 2008 7:49 pm)

Recalls are not a judge on reliability, but rather quality control and safety hazards. Toyota has had more then their fair share of recalls in recent years. It sure does look bad.
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Looking at these 3 cars by jjanders
Apr 30, 2008 (11:20 am)
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Just bumping this thread as I am currently debating between:
 
2009 Corolla LE
2009 Mazda 3 i Touring Value
2008 Honda Civic LX
 
Corolla has VSC, good mileage, quiet, smooth ride, a little boring but that's fine for me as I'm looking for a comfortable commuter. Also has 0% (at least I hope it's extended through May)
 
Honda has good mileage, best exterior (IMO), but not sure how I feel about two tiered dash though.
 
Mazda is the sportiest of the bunch but terrible mileage for automatic, 4 year old model (though it does still look pretty good), higher insurance.
 
It seems both Honda and Toyota have slipped a bit in quality lately, lots of build quality issues with 8th gen Civic. Corolla is new and I'm usually wary about buying first model year cars, though no big problems have popped up yet.
 
Tough choice, I am thinking of going with the Corolla if they have 0% in May.
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Re: Looking at these 3 cars [jjanders] by sparkland
Apr 30, 2008 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: jjanders (Apr 30, 2008 11:20 am)

My wife and I have shopped the Civics and Corollla's until we are exhausted. The 0% financing on the Corolla really peaked our interest. We initially like the Corolla LE but then saw an XLE and we loved that model. Really liked the traction control on the Corolla but know that the Civic will be getting this in this year's update. The only thing about the Corolla we did not particularly like was the steer by wire feature. When the steering wheel comes back to dead center it takes a little effort on the driver's part to bring it back to center. Also on the highway the car tends to drift a little because of the steering-that is okay once the driver becomes familiar with the tendencies of the drive by wire setup.
 
The Civic is nice but we also had reservations about the digital speedometer so high up on the dash. We did not particularly like the upholstery on the LX model but did the EX model.
 
Hard decision.
 
Hope you enjoy whatever you pick.
 
FYI, we are still on the fence and were hoping for some manufacturer help on the Civic with respect to finances. I know I am dreaming.
 
Brad
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Honda/Toyota low APR by jjanders
May 01, 2008 (8:22 am)
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Well, the local Honda dealership called me today since I had told them I was waiting for special financing....Honda is having 2.9% for the month of May.
 
Toyota has also extended it's 0%/1.9%/2.9% through 6/2 as well.
 
Definitely pulling the trigger this month to take advantage of low financing, now I just need to decide between the two cars!
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Re: Looking at these 3 cars [jjanders] by roadburner
May 01, 2008 (3:38 pm)
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Replying to: jjanders (Apr 30, 2008 11:20 am)

I'd rank them as follows:
 
1. Mazda
2. Honda
3. Toyota
 
All three are good cars, but I place a premium on performance and driving enjoyment. I also detest slushboxes. Between the Honda and Toyota I'd go with the Honda, only because I find almost all current Toyotas to be bland transportation appliances. That said, you are the one who's going to be driving it, so pick the one that makes YOU smile...
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Re: Looking at these 3 cars [sparkland] by bits4brains
May 02, 2008 (4:27 am)
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Replying to: sparkland (Apr 30, 2008 11:34 am)

"The only thing about the Corolla we did not particularly like was the steer by wire feature."
 
The throttle is drive by wire. The steering is electrically rather than hydraulically assisted. The steering wheel, unlike the accelerator and the throttle, is still directly connected to the front wheels.
 
Your observations about the behavior of the steering are accurate. It takes some getting used to. After 2000 miles, I've noticed that it's only a problem when I notice it. In other words, if I focus down the road and drive I don't notice it. If I think about it, the sensitivity of the steering becomes noticeable again.
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Re: Looking at these 3 cars [roadburner] by nvbanker
May 03, 2008 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (May 01, 2008 3:38 pm)

From a fun to drive factor - I agree with you.
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Comparison Shopping - Honda vs. Mazda by saulster
May 06, 2008 (8:35 am)
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I have recently driven the Mazda 3 and Honda Civic Si.
 
Both drove solidly and nicely ( 5M or 6M ). I didn't go into the "i-VTEC" rev band on the Honda in fairness to the new, green engine on the test vehicle. Still, powerful enough even lower revs and a sweet shifter and clutch.
 
The M3 seems to have Honda beat on interior content, especially Grand Touring with the nice leather and other details, like rain sensing wipers, xenon headlights ( OK, that's exterior ), etc. I prefer the more standard dash to Honda's split dash, which seems like an answer to a question no one asked. And I positively dislike Honda's location of the parking brake on the driver's side of the center console, right where my leg rests whether using the gas or on cruise control.
 
In short, I like the Honda enough, it's a tremendous value, but disqualified for me by the )(*&(*)&^ parking brake which there is no way around on any Civic. Somehow, Honda got the ergos wrong on this generation Civic and that's a huge surprise. Split dash, parking brake right where leg rests, what were they thinking?
 
The Toyota is still waiting but I am driving it last for a reason. Not the sportiest of the econocar bunch and for similar car and money, I like to get a little sporty if I can. Well, I will test drive it anyway and see.
 
S

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