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Honda Civic vs Toyota Corolla vs Mazda3

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Slushbox by sandman46
Sep 28, 2007 (6:03 pm)
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Re: Guys... [steve333] by nvbanker
Jan 06, 2008 (8:56 pm)
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Replying to: steve333 (Sep 25, 2007 9:32 pm)

If you want comfort at the top of your list I would go with the Elantra. Sporty, the Mazda 3. Combo of the 2-Cobalt. My 2 cents.
 
Neither than Cobalt or the Elantra are in the league with the 3, Civic or Corolla. They are both competent, but noisier, less refined, more NVH in general. They're in a different class, and the resale value bears that out. As for longevity, the Elantra beats the Cobalt, I'm afraid.
 
YMMV, but having driven them all extensively, that's my opinion.
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Re: Guys... [steve333] by steve333
Jan 06, 2008 (9:54 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Jan 06, 2008 8:56 pm)

You say you've driven them extensively and you say the Cobalt is noisier than the Corolla? I find that hard to believe. The Corolla's engine sounded like a bad lawn mower with absolutely no passing power and barely enough power to enter the freeway. Only jamming on the gas and waiting until the transmission lurched into gear enabled the Corolla to move. Combine that with a very uncomfortable seating position and a soft suspension leaves the Corolla at the back of the list. The only thing it has going for it is reliability and good gas mileage.
Personally, I like to drive, and I would gladly give up a few MPGs for a car that handles well and has pep, like the Cobalt. It is also noted for its quiet cabin by the way.
As for the Civic, I never got to drive the new model, only the previous one which the Cobalt was a lot better than. I assume from the reviews that it handles well and finally has adequate power. I will take their word for it but the dashboard is a major turn off.
The best car of the bunch in my opnion is the Mazda 3. I was in the market for a recent used car and couldn't find a 3 to buy so I went with the Cobalt.
You couldn't pay me to drive a Corolla.
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Re: Guys... [steve333] by jlawrence01
Jan 06, 2008 (10:15 pm)
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Replying to: steve333 (Jan 06, 2008 9:54 pm)

I have to disagree and I drove them all extensively over the past year while I was between vehicles.
 
The Cobalt was a major disappointment and I have to say that it reminded me of the Cavalier with a little better interior and a little less comfort. It is a very noisy vehicle. Before I bought one of those, I would have bought the 2nd generation Malibu which handles well despite the blandness of the interior.
 
The Mazda 3 was a tight fit for this driver and the mpg was always under 30 mpg which was a real disappointment for a vehicle that small. I drove three of them and they all seemed a lot different.
 
The Corolla is nothing very exciting but the vehicle was quiet and the drive fairly pleasant.
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Re: Guys... [nvbanker] by targettuning
Jan 07, 2008 (5:04 am)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Jan 06, 2008 8:56 pm)

I never drove or rode in a Cobalt so no comments for it and it has been a while since I rode in or drove a Corolla we but rented a Mazda 3 over Christmas and had it for a week, rented a 2007 (new version) Elantra earlier in the fall, and own a 2006 Civic. I disagree about placing the Elantra in a lower class (along with the Cobalt) with regard to refinement...noise...and NVH (in general).
refinement:
1. Elantra...it seemed more refined than the Civic and much more so than the 3. Don't mistake refinement for a "sporty" feel. The engine was dead smooth and quiet at idle.It rode and drove more smoothly and quietly inside than either, especially the Civic, which is like a "go-cart" on the bumps and in steering feel (twitch the steering wheel and off you go in another direction).
2. Mazda 3 rode better than the Civic but the model we rented (must have been the bottom model) had no sound insulation and riding in the rear seat sounded like the rear tires were in my lap with every thump and bump in the road and every rear suspension action magnified by the 'echo chamber" trunk and wheel well...noisy to the max!!!
3. we own the Civic and it is a taunt, noisy car. Tire (road) noise and wind noise compete with suspension noise and I don't know which is worse. The engine is fairly quiet at idle though.
 talking longevity...probably any of them (with proper maintainence) will last as long as anyone would care to own them.
 They are in different "perceived" classes and for the life of me I cannot understand why the Civic is thought to be so special nor why the Elantra is always an "also ran". I have no strong opinion about the Mazda one way or the other but probably won't be buying one if I buy another car in this class.
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Own The 3 And The Civic by sandman46
Jan 07, 2008 (6:36 am)
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Prefer the Civic to anything out there now and I've driven them all. Think the 3 comes in at 2nd place but since we own the "S" model, the car accelerates much better and seemlessly with nothing felt between shifts. Personally, love the two-tiered dash as one's eyes don't leave the road and after about an hour with the car, became a non issue.
The daughter will be looking for her 1st car this fall and she's already mentioned the Elantra as her choice. Of course we'll have her try everything from the Aveo and Accent up through the Civic. She's a new driver in many respects, so she'll get what drives the best and is the most comfortable...and what her budget can allow.
Should be interesting to see what she finally ends up with in the end. Time will tell. But I still love my Civic and for what's out there, the wife still prefers her 3s.
 
The Sandman
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2008 Editors' Most Wanted by ahightower
Jan 09, 2008 (8:36 pm)
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Mazda3 won again! Granted your priorities might differ, but I always enjoy a little validation.
 
I just rolled over 2,000 miles in my new 2008 3i Touring, and love it. The steering is just perfect. The gas mileage gets a little better on each tank, recently did very close to 34 mpg. Granted I've managed to avoid heavy traffic lately (going into the office pretty early), and have been driving like a grandpa (never over the 65 mph speed limit) just to see how high I can get it. I'm very satisfied so far.
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Re: 2008 Editors' Most Wanted [ahightower] by steve333
Jan 09, 2008 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: ahightower (Jan 09, 2008 8:36 pm)

How does your car handle bumps and potholes?
Im also curious how much you paid for it. Thanks.
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FWIW by nvbanker
Jan 09, 2008 (8:46 pm)
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I certainly agree with the comments about suspension, tire & road noise on the Civic. Especially in the rear seat, it's nearly deafening.
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Re: Own The 3 And The Civic [sandman46] by gene2
Jan 10, 2008 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: sandman46 (Jan 07, 2008 6:36 am)

May I suggest you take a peek at the Insurance Institute For Highway Safety's Website (IIHS.org)? Compare Civic, Mazda3, and Elantra side impact crash test results. The Civic's superb crash test scores is why I bought it and not the Mazda3 or Elantra. I intend to drive the Civic for a few years and then pass it down to my oldest daughter. Because my daughter will be someday driving this car, economy, reliability, practicality, and SAFETY were very important factors in my decision to buy the Honda. Surprise - after 21,000 miles, I'm still astounded at how much FUN the '07 Civic LX is to drive. Also got 39 mpg (highway) on a trip from Delaware to North Carolina during Christmas break. No fluke - also got 39 mpg on the return trip.

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