Last post on Nov 25, 2008 at 2:57 PM
You are in the Honda Civic
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Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Mazda MAZDA3, Sedan
#661 of 879 Re: Mazdas and 'Rollas and Civics, oh my! [zzoomp09]
Jul 15, 2007 (9:43 am)
Well, I bought a Corolla because I wanted a car that I didn't have to screw with, just hop in, turn the key, and go. And I've been pleased. But lately I've been dying for wood trim! LOL And, I've also been wondering about going back to the stick shift. Here lately though I've been having foot trouble and so that's in the back of my mind, if my only car is a manual and something else happens to my foot, how do I get to work, you know?
I understand the feeling of wanting something more, though. You still want reliable, you just want...more! The Mazda3 is undeniably cute, at least the sedan is, I wish that back end raised up some so you could store more stuff in it because the hatchbacks are flat ugly. Not Scion ugly, but less attractive. The Corolla LE has toys like moon roof and JBL and that great beige dash with the wood trim. And then there are the Hyundai siblings, Elantra and Sonata, who are both way better looking than they used to be. There are a lot of contenders for the buck out there these days, and I'm glad to see it! Makes test driving fun!
You know at the time I was shopping for the car I have now, I was really looking for a Saturn wagon, but the wouldn't come down off the price of them. $15K for a wagon back in 1998 was high in my book! Then I went to another dealer and saw the Toyota program car...the rest is history!
#662 of 879 Re: Mazdas and 'Rollas and Civics, oh my! [thegraduate]
Jul 15, 2007 (9:54 am)
Hi, thanks for the detailed response. Wouldn't have helped me back then, but it's certainly good to know should I end up with a Mazda. Seems like my cousin's Nissan has that, too.
I think it's silly. Are people that afraid of the third pedal?! It's not the shifting that's important, at least the way I understand it. You get a manual because you don't want a car weighed down by I-don't-know-how-many pounds of fluid and oil so you can get better gas mileage and still get somewhere! To say nothing of the convenience of not having to take time off work to have the car serviced for $150. What good is it to be able to shift and yet you've still got a heavy transmission underneath you?! Mind you, thegraduate, I'm not addressing these questions to you, I'm just kind of virtually shaking my head at all of it!
Anyway, thanks for explaining what the "M" was. I didn't have the car long enough to play with it. I stuck to the gears I was familiar with!
#664 of 879 Re: Unavailability of rallye red on Civic [bottgers]
Jul 15, 2007 (4:44 pm)
While the '06 Civic is "cooler", if you are over 30 - it's a little silly and blingy.
#665 of 879 Re: Unavailability of rallye red on Civic [electrobuzz]
Jul 15, 2007 (5:06 pm)
I see nothing "silly" about the Civic in general, just Honda's decision to make the color rallye red available only on the EX and SI trim levels. Generally speaking, the Civic is a very nice ride regardless of your age.
Jul 15, 2007 (5:13 pm)
I couldnt get over the dash and steering wheel-a tad too odd for me. Also, pricey. I decided on the Cobalt because the pickup is excellent and the seats support my back well. The Mazda 3 was impossible to find at the time.
I ruled out the Corolla afterb taking it for a test drive and finding that I couldnt wait to get out of the car. In my opinion the Corolla is way out of its league and too far outdated to make its reliability and Mileage a positive. I'm sure the new model will be loads better but right now I cant imagine anyone choosing it over a Civic 3, or even a Cobalt. To each his own I guess.
#667 of 879 Re: civic [steve333]
Jul 15, 2007 (5:29 pm)
I know what you mean about the Corolla. Our secretary has an '03 she'll be selling next year. I test drove it and I couldn't get the driver's seat far enough back to get comfortable, and I'm only 6' even. The Yaris was way more comfortable. I haven't test driven a Civic yet, but I'm sure I will at some point. I like the looks of the Cobalt, but GM has a horrible track record with the reliability of their smaller vehicles, so it's not even in the consideraiton running. So far, of all the cars I've test driven, believe it or not I like the Yaris hatchback the best. The redesigned Corolla might be worth a look, but we're gonna have to wait a while for that to be available.
#668 of 879 Re: civic [bottgers]
Jul 15, 2007 (5:48 pm)
The Cobalt's reliability has improved alot. It usually takes a couple years to work the kinks out of a new model.
Be careful about the Yaris, take it on the highway before deciding. Even CR, which usually praises all that is Toyota rated the Yaris very low. If you like to drive, I dont think you'll like the Yaris.
#669 of 879 Re: Mazdas and 'Rollas and Civics, oh my! [irismg]
Jul 15, 2007 (7:00 pm)
Mind you, thegraduate, I'm not addressing these questions to you, I'm just kind of virtually shaking my head at all of it!
I completely understand, my friend. I think "out loud" on the forums all the time (lots of people do it). The people that seem to like the manumatic feature don't use it for what the marketing guys from the carmakers say (who tend to say it is the best of both worlds, "the control of a manual without the hassle of a clutch, and the automatic is there for traffic crawling, etc...")
The norm seems to be that people like how easy it is to use the "M" shift gate for engine braking; locking into 3rd gear on a hill, etc.
Always ask a question here; if one person can't help, it is very likely someone else CAN.
#670 of 879 Re: civic [steve333]
Jul 16, 2007 (6:15 am)
I don't quite understand why CR, who usually has a love fest for everything Toyota puts out, dislikes the Yaris. They also didn't like the Echo and it generally speaking gets nothing but rants and raves from its owners. I have driven the Yaris on the highway and I'm not seeing what the gripes are about this car. OTOH, many testers have claimed the Fit is superior to the Yaris in almost every way, shape, and form, and I see it as just the opposite. I don't get all the negativity about the Yaris as it's certainly unwarranted.