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Honda Civic vs Toyota Corolla vs Mazda3

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Re: Q: How does a car become young or old? A: Marketing [jlawrence01] by stallionre
Apr 09, 2007 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: jlawrence01 (Mar 30, 2007 11:11 am)

Believe it or not. The ages that I have read about and so far Mazda said that are mostly buying the Mazda's are Between 25-38. the 16-20 year olds, like the Honda civic sport and the Nissan SE-R, especially when the Spec SE-R comes out next month. If Mazda is marketing for the ages 16-30, then why are not buying them as a majority.
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Re: - [dudleyr] by stallionre
Apr 09, 2007 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Apr 02, 2007 5:31 pm)

This is so true. I am seeing many people that are in the their 30-40's buying cars that marketed for people in their 20's and Vice versa. Strange how life is.
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Re: Q: How does a car become young or old? A: Marketing [stallionre] by audia8q
Apr 09, 2007 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: stallionre (Apr 09, 2007 10:09 am)

Most automobile manufacturer advertising is geared 10 years younger than the actual projected buyers...many people think of themselves as a little younger than they really are and advertisers routine use this tactic.
 
The avg age of a new mazda is in the mid 30's....and its the lowest avg of any new car mfg. Remember, the 16-20 yr old crowd has alot of desire but little or no ability to actually buy a new car.
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Re: Q: How does a car become young or old? A: Marketing [audia8q] by stallionre
Apr 09, 2007 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: audia8q (Apr 09, 2007 10:49 am)

You are so right about that. It really doesn't matter about what car and how old you, if you like a car, then you will buy it. I never care about how manufacturer's market their cars. I drive many different types of cars for all targeted age groups.
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Re: Q: How does a car become young or old? A: Marketing [stallionre] by jlawrence01
Apr 09, 2007 (1:20 pm)
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Replying to: stallionre (Apr 09, 2007 10:09 am)

If Mazda is marketing for the ages 16-30, then why are not buying them as a majority.
 
When Toyota introduced the Echo as an entry-level car, they marketed it to the young driver. And the average driver was in their mid 40s as many seniors bought the car.
 
Many of the Ford and Mazda people that I have met as a fleet manager have stated that they are marketing the vehicle for younger people. However, if you are 75 years old and you have to have a Mazda 3, they will sell you one.
 
Marketing does not always translate to sales ...
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Re: Q: How does a car become young or old? A: Marketing [jlawrence01] by stallionre
Apr 09, 2007 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: jlawrence01 (Apr 09, 2007 1:20 pm)

Marketing is what it is MARKETING and only that. I know many car companies who spend millions in ad's, but their sales are low. It just depends on what people want. Buying a car is such a personal thing to each person. Marketing will not help a person buy a car. For example, I bought a Mazda M3S GT fully loaded and I didn't see any ad's for this car. I always see ad's like Zoom-Zoom. The ad's didn't affect my purchase at all. Cars are hard to buy because each car, I like different things about them, but not all one car has everything that I want. Why doesn't a car manufacturer make a car exactly how you want it. MADE TO ORDER CONCEPT. LOL.
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Re: Q: How does a car become young or old? A: Marketing [jlawrence01] by aviboy97
Apr 10, 2007 (1:38 pm)
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Replying to: jlawrence01 (Apr 09, 2007 1:20 pm)

However, if you are 75 years old and you have to have a Mazda 3, they will sell you one.
 
I had a 73 yr old man buy a True Red Mazdaspeed3. He had to have it!
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Re: Q: How does a car become young or old? A: Marketing [aviboy97] by stallionre
Apr 11, 2007 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 10, 2007 1:38 pm)

WOW, awesome for that man. Maybe he will enjoy the car. I hope so.
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Re: Mazda 3 vs civic [herrkaleu] by stallionre
Apr 11, 2007 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: herrkaleu (Oct 28, 2005 9:54 pm)

Herrkaleu,
 
  Thanks for your write up. I agree with what you have said. I just got off the phone with the dealer service manager and the Mazda 3 has a chain and the first oil change is at 7,500 miles. This is true. The book states this.
 
I went with the Mazda because of the safety features and not only that, look at what you get for the price. Heated front seat's for a mid-size class sedan? Who knew? There are many extras also. I also love the larger engine and the 5 speed auto trans with Manual shift. SIMPLY awesome!!! I an real impressed with it.
 
I test drove many cars, including the Civic, Cobalt, Nissan sentra SE-R, Toyota and VW GTI. I am not impressed with any of those cars. Some were worst than others. The civic truck is a joke. The VW was noisy and felt like it was going to fall apart. The Nissan was pulling to one side when you hit the gas hard. That new transmission the CVT does no justice to the car and makes the drive difficult. It shifts through each gear before the trans kicks in, that what it feels like. The RPM's go to red line before it waits for the trans to catch up to the engine speed. The worst thing that I have ever experienced.
 
I have found that the Mazda was very reliable, great price, great gas mileage, great interior, awesome options, the Bose system is simply breath taking and the moonroof adds a wonderful touch. What impresses me the most is all leather seats, 2.3 DOHC 16-valve I4 engine with VVT, ABS, DSC, SRS system, TCS, 17" rims, telescopic steering wheel, theft system with engine immobilizer, "Triple H" construction (based from the Volvo S40), and the tire pressure monitoring system. Simply awesome!! (I love those two words).
 
When you stand in front of the car looking towards the rear, it looks so impressive aero dynamic. It has a sports feel and look about it. Now adays, that is what most people seek or enjoy. I have read that in a car and driver magazine.
When you first sit in a Mazda 3 M3S GT the sit hugs you, like a sports car.
 
I heard that most cars have a timing belt, not chain, unlike the Mazda's. Civic uses a timing belt. They use a stronger steel belt. I only heard this and can not confirm this.
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Re: Mazda 3 vs civic [stallionre] by eldaino
Apr 11, 2007 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: stallionre (Apr 11, 2007 8:39 am)

wow you actually liked the 3 over the gti? Well granted with your prior experience with your golf i don't blame you, but even avi has stated that the gti's interior owns, even over the mazdaspeed 3. I've never heard of one feeling like it was about to fall apart...sounds a litte far fetched, but i know you are biased against vw.
 
It has a sports feel and look about it. Now adays, that is what most people seek or enjoy. I have read that in a car and driver magazine.
 
this is funny. so if c/d didn't say it, people wouldn't desire it?

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