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Honda Civic vs Toyota Corolla vs Mazda3

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What is this discussion about? Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Mazda MAZDA3, Sedan


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Re: My observations ... [ezpilze] by jlawrence01
Mar 22, 2007 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: ezpilze (Mar 21, 2007 10:29 pm)

The mazda3 definitely runs better than the corolla so if the performance on the mazda3 was "not that great"
 
Personally, based on two week-end long rentals of 300 miles each on both models, I liked the Corolla's ride better than the Mazda3's. I also found the Corolla to be more comfortable than the Mazda3. That is my opinion - and why I ALWAYS do extended test rides.
 
If I wanted a car that would get 25-27 mpg, I would have purchased a 2004 Chevy Impala off-lease and get a much more comfortable vehicle.
 
Everyone has their opinion on what I should buy. My brother thought I shoudl buy a Focus.
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Re: My observations ... [jlawrence01] by eldaino
Mar 22, 2007 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: jlawrence01 (Mar 22, 2007 7:11 am)

and why I ALWAYS do extended test rides.
 
why not give the civic a chance then? You said yourself your experience is more than likely not typical. Maybe you owe it to yourself to try her out, despite what many people on this forum say, i averaged 28 in the city and 38 on the highway which is on par with both the new and old epa ratings.
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Re: My observations ... [eldaino] by jlawrence01
Mar 22, 2007 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Mar 22, 2007 9:13 am)

Why? I don't want to buy a Honda. I have driven a Civic on several occasions and they are not comfortable. Also, I haven't liked the Honda dealerships that I have dealt with
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Re: My observations ... [jlawrence01] by eldaino
Mar 22, 2007 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: jlawrence01 (Mar 22, 2007 11:12 am)

i was just going by what you said, about always taking a good long test drive first. is it the new civic you've tried out? I've always found it very comfy, honda excels at ergonomics.
 
Maybe try a different dealer? Don't let the dealer reflect on the product.
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Re: My observations ... [jlawrence01] by aviboy97
Mar 22, 2007 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: jlawrence01 (Mar 22, 2007 11:12 am)

Honda and Toyota dealerships tend to be the worst at customer service, and many of the salesmen are very arrogant and snooty.
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Re: My observations ... [aviboy97] by eldaino
Mar 22, 2007 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Mar 22, 2007 11:30 am)

thats not fair avi. Just because some are, doesn't mean that they all tend to be.
 
To make a long story short, when i still had my civc (when they had just come out) i drove up to the mazda dealer where i lived just to check out the 3 hatch since i was still within that period they give you where if you hate the car and have to return it, just to see if maybe my choice was too hasty. A few mazda guys pulled up to when they saw me get there and they literally scowled at me and ignored me.
 
If they were willing to work with me, i may have found myself in a 3. (well prob not but still.) It seemed they did it just because i was driving a honda. The honda dealer i got my civic from, got along just fine with the lady who traded in her 05 mazda 3s sedan for a new civic and didn't turn her away when she expressed interest in the civic.(i mention this because she was there the day i got mine.)
 
Having said that, would it be wrong for me to assume ALL mazda dealers and their employees are like the ones i mentioned? Of course not that would be totally unfair.
You as a dealer employee should be aware of that avi.
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Re: My observations ... [aviboy97] by jlawrence01
Mar 22, 2007 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Mar 22, 2007 11:30 am)

As a fleet manager, I deal with 10-20 dealerships in the Chicagoland area. In addition, occasionally I help a co-worker buy a vehicle. I deal primarily with Lexus, Chrysler, Ford and GM dealerships depending on what my drivers select.
 
In my contacts with three or four Honda dealership, I get an impression that the prices are "take it or leave it."
 
Personally, I don't find the Civic to be comfortable (even the "newer" version which I checked out when I was at the North American Auto Show on industry day).
 
Since I would have had to pay a premium price to get into a Civic (versus other domestic and import models) and I don't really like the car, it was not a serious factor in my consideration. If there were Hondas in rental fleets that I could drive for an extended time, maybe I would have changed my mind.
 
In all fairness, I would not pay much more than $15k for ANY compact on the market - including the Corolla. If I had to pay the $15.6k on a Corolla that I planned to, I would have picked up a off-lease Chevy Impala for about $8k and been perfectly satisfied (and lost about 5-7 mpg) as I generally buy (and have been satisfied with) GM vehicles.
 
Personally, I couldn't believe what I paid for the Corolla (and it was a NO-HAGGLE price) and a couple of co-workers are looking at that deal for their kid's car.
 
I don't want to start a Toyota vs. Honda rant
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Re: My observations ... [jlawrence01] by eldaino
Mar 22, 2007 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: jlawrence01 (Mar 22, 2007 12:55 pm)

a premium price? Maybe over a domestic, but the mazda 3 and nissan sentra are no stranger to the near 20k price tag.
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Re: My observations ... [eldaino] by aviboy97
Mar 22, 2007 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Mar 22, 2007 11:41 am)

I never said "all"...I said they "tend" to be the worst, many consumer studies have shown that as well. In recent years, Toyota and Honda dealers were rated at the bottom by CR.
 
I never said Mazda dealers were any better. They don't have a great reputation, either, and I am one.
 
Take that as you may...
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Re: My observations ... [eldaino] by aviboy97
Mar 22, 2007 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Mar 22, 2007 12:57 pm)

mazda 3 and nissan sentra are no stranger to the near 20k price tag.
 
No they are not, however, you get what you pay for. Nissan, Mazda, Honda and Toyota make vehicle far superior to anything we can produce here in America (i.e Ford, Chevy, Chrysler)
 
I will pay for quality over a cheap price tag any day...

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