Last post on Nov 25, 2008 at 2:57 PM
You are in the Honda Civic
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Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Mazda MAZDA3, Sedan
#552 of 879 Re: '05 Civic vs '06 Corolla [steve333]
Mar 17, 2007 (11:54 pm)
I do not want to offend anybody; however, to call Corolla "a horrible driving car" is a pure non-sense.
Toyota Corolla is much more of a car than Chevy Cobalt. I do not know how you came up with the idea that Chevy Cobalt is such a nice vehicle.... Of course the Cobalt will feel more powerful-it has 2.2l and 2.4l engine. If you want to compare it for its power go ahead and do it with Scion tC.... I bet you that nobody will prefer the Cobalt...
The Corolla is a pretty decent car. The design of the car is 5-6 years old; however, Toyota has made so many improvements on this car since 2005. For example, you can buy a Corolla with side air bags, ABS brakes, Stability Control, auto-dimming mirror, leather seats, moon roof. These options are not standard; however, you can find them in Dealerships. I am pretty sure that 2008 Toyota Corolla (new design) will have many options as standard equipment.
I bought a 2007 Toyota Corolla 2 months ago, and I can say that I am completely satisfied. It depends what you want. If you want full luxury, then you can buy Toyota Camry or even Lexus...
I wanted a car that will give me good gas mileage and will have comfortable ride. It gives me 30MPG in 30/70 hwy/city-this is mileage in the winter. I believe it will go up to 34-35 MPG.
People buy Toyotas because they offer nice comfortable ride for daily commute.
I do not say that Honda Civic, Mazda 3, Chevy Cobalt....are bad choices. Go and drive all these models and see what you will like most.
However, Toyota and Honda will last longer in a long run.
Steve333, enjoy your Cobalt!
#553 of 879 Re: '05 Civic vs '06 Corolla [dchev]
Mar 18, 2007 (11:15 am)
Well, I test drove a 2006 brand new Corolla and this is what I'm basing my opinions on. Either there was something seriously wrong with the car I drove or something else is wrong. Getting it up to freeway speed was a chore with the engine lurking and lurching and sounded like a bad lawn mower. The steering wheel was cantered downward at an angle and made it difficult to find a comfortable driving position. I literally couldn't wait to get out of the car.
Now, what I'm saying is that folks need to test drive every car they are considering. Don't go by what CR says. The Corolla may be reliable but I would rather enjoy driving my car and have a couple more warranty related problems with it then dread driving every day.
The Corolla is indeed an old design and nowhere near the top of the class anymore. In my opinion the car does not deserve the sales numbers it gets. There are far better choices out there, and yes I think the Cobalt LT is one of them.
But you know what they say about opinions........everybodys got 'em!
#554 of 879 The '08 Corolla
Mar 21, 2007 (1:51 pm)
It'll be quite interesting when this car comes to the marketplace actually. It will have to be a better driving car than the previous generation. We did rent an '07 LE when we went to St. Louis last September and the car was just...adequete. The car seemed a bit underpowered and loud on the freeway but was comfortable for my spinal imjury. Everything was where it should be and the optitron dash lights were impressive. But the car just felt old with that appliance feeling.
That's why I'm quite excited to see the '08 restyle. It'll probaly be very Camryeske in its road manners and interior, which is a good thing. I think Toyota finally realized that with the new Civic and Elantra that much is riding on this redesign and they must get it right. The Mazda 3 is at the end of it's present life cycle and is due for it's redesign soon.
Great time to buy this class of car. I personally think that the '09 models will be the ones to buy.
#555 of 879 My observations ...
Mar 21, 2007 (8:18 pm)
I have been renting cars from Hertz Local Edition for at least weekends in the past five months. (The current "fifty" promotion combined with the Spirit Air discounts brings the cost down to $8-10.)
I have driven several Mazda3s 2006 and 2007 models. There seems to be a slight difference between the two years with the 2007 seeming a bit smaller. Averaged 25-27 mpg which is pretty bad for a car that small. It looks cool but the performance to me is not that great.
The positive of the Corolla is the gas mileage - been getting between 31-35 mpg. The only drawback that I saw was that it took a while to figure out how to get my legs underneath the steering wheel.
The Corolla has a dated design but it appeals to people who want a boring car with a track record of reliability and fuel economy.
I considered and drove both the Nissan Versa and Sentra. They are a lot better styles and a lot "cooler" cars. However, a lot of people aren't getting 30 mpg on the Versa and it is hard to find a Sentra much under $17k with auto trans.
#556 of 879 Re: My observations ... [jlawrence01]
Mar 21, 2007 (8:37 pm)
Not considering the Civic then?
#557 of 879 Re: My observations ... [jlawrence01]
Mar 21, 2007 (10:29 pm)
If you're getting 31-35 mpg on the corolla, then I'm guessing you drive very delicately; you just might be able to pull off 30 on the versa.
And for a car that gets 25-27mpg I think the performance is about right for the mazda3 isn't it? If the acceleration gets (mazdaspeed3) any better people will probably say the gas is VERY bad right? The mazda3 definitely runs better than the corolla so if the performance on the mazda3 was "not that great" then the corolla's performance should be somewhere near unbearable right? I'd count that as a drawback.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending any car or belittling any car (though I must admit that I dislike the corolla), I just wanted to point out a couple things that weren't addressed.
#558 of 879 Re: My observations ... [thegraduate]
Mar 22, 2007 (7:11 am)
I would not consider a Honda. My sister bought a new Accord a few years back, followed all the maintenance requirements per the owners manual and had the engine blow at 45k. Received no support from the dealership.
Also, my few contacts with some of the local dealerships have not been favorable.
I know that my experiences may NOT be typical.
#559 of 879 Re: My observations ... [ezpilze]
Mar 22, 2007 (7:15 am)
The mazda3 definitely runs better than the corolla so if the performance on the mazda3 was "not that great"
Personally, based on two week-end long rentals of 300 miles each on both models, I liked the Corolla's ride better than the Mazda3's. I also found the Corolla to be more comfortable than the Mazda3. That is my opinion - and why I ALWAYS do extended test rides.
If I wanted a car that would get 25-27 mpg, I would have purchased a 2004 Chevy Impala off-lease and get a much more comfortable vehicle.
Everyone has their opinion on what I should buy. My brother thought I shoudl buy a Focus.
#560 of 879 Re: My observations ... [jlawrence01]
Mar 22, 2007 (9:13 am)
and why I ALWAYS do extended test rides.
why not give the civic a chance then? You said yourself your experience is more than likely not typical. Maybe you owe it to yourself to try her out, despite what many people on this forum say, i averaged 28 in the city and 38 on the highway which is on par with both the new and old epa ratings.
#561 of 879 Re: My observations ... [eldaino]
Mar 22, 2007 (11:12 am)
Why? I don't want to buy a Honda. I have driven a Civic on several occasions and they are not comfortable. Also, I haven't liked the Honda dealerships that I have dealt with