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Replying to: jasmine5 (Feb 02, 2007 12:30 pm) If you purchased the car and own it, then you would try to keep it as long as possible to spread the cost of the car over a long period. The single largest cost of a new car is its depreciation (especially in its first year where many cars typically lose 15% to 20% of their value). For that reason alone, it does not make sense to me to sell a car before it is four or five years old. Another way of looking at it, the money you save not paying for a new car is earning interest in the bank. The car industry, of course, would prefer that we buy new cars as frequently as possible. To keep a car for this period (four years or more) is directly related to its long term reliability. That's one reason I think one could argue that Japanese cars are cheaper than American and European cars. And Corollas are great in that they hold their value especially well. |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 02, 2007 6:26 pm) Well actually the past two tanks i've tracked i have gotten 22mpg - I am pretty meticulous about tracking my mpg...or neurotic - you decide - however i know its accurate. Anyway, I am letting it warm up a bit more, about three mins but only when the car has sat for a while (i.e., in the morning). I know that the car is going to get worse gas mileage in the winter but now ten miles different - seems a bit ludicrous. I know SUVs (my friend's CRV) that is getting better mpg than my corolla. Driving harder - ya know i kind of drive like an old lady - hence my purchase of a corolla- so no i don't think so - the car only has 3,000 miles on it - i mean i guess i have to punch it sometimes in the city to avoid a crazy driver but all in all i think i am pretty standard over the past three months of owning the car. I ask about the time of ownership, because I am quite disappointed in my purchase and have been thinking about a trade in and I am wondering just how insane that is.... the mpg is just really aggravating me - save the world girl at heart! Last - do you think something is wrong with my car??? do you think i can call the dealer on false advertising? My previous car was a '92 honda civic - loved it - wish i could have drove it into the ground - but someone else wanted it so they took it (you may remember this story from past posts). ok grad - any advise - i'm here....nursing my wounds from a Chicago Bears loss in the SuperBowl....
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Replying to: jasmine5 (Feb 05, 2007 3:39 pm) -Warming up the car will use a decent amount of fuel, but 22 MPG is pretty low, I'll definitely agree. -What kind of mileage did you get in the Civic in the same type of conditions? If it got in the low-mid 20s, then I'd say your vehicle is probably fine. Do you do a lot of stop and go city driving? -I would be tempted to let the dealer take a look at the car, but since you are at 3k miles, maybe ask about it at the oil change, and mention your concern. 22MPG is NOT normal for regular driving, but with a lot of idling, warming up, and stop and go, its pretty easy to get to. Remember, for every minute your car idles, you are getting 0 MPG. -You can't call the dealer on false advertising, because the dealer, and even Toyota corporation, are not the ones who come up with the mileage estimates. That's the EPA. Let me know what your commute is like (how far, and how long it generally takes to go that many miles). I understand you don't drive aggressively (under 4k RPM most of the time, I'd guess?), but a lot of stopped time is what will kill mileage. That's all I can tell you for now, with the facts I've got.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 05, 2007 6:48 pm) Yes, i do mostly stop and go driving in the city. I really only have to drive 2.8 miles to work (no public transport), but it is all lights and many people on the road. commute = 2.8 miles to work, it takes me any where from 20-35 mins to get to work. Yikes that's scary.... |
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Replying to: jasmine5 (Feb 06, 2007 7:41 am) Ok, there's all I need to hear. You are averaging about 5 miles an hour - which is really REALLY bad for mileage. Remember, the CITY EPA estimate is averaging 20 MPH, or making 4x the forward progress that you are. With that kind of commute, I'm amazed that you got 32 MPG if this is in fact the same commute you had in your old Civic. I wouldn't expect 20 MPG in a 5 MPH average drive, so I'd say your Corolla is performing pretty well, considering. Have you taken your car out on the highway for a trip (over say, 250 miles highway at one time?) Do this, and see if your mileage hits mid-upper 30s or better. If it does, your car is likely just fine. Honestly, my personal opinion is that nothing wrong with your car, instead everything is wrong with your commute.
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Replying to: jasmine5 (Feb 06, 2007 7:41 am)
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Replying to: d_hyper (Feb 06, 2007 9:13 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 06, 2007 9:07 am) I have taken the corolla on one long trip and i averaged 40 mpg - I was smiling!!!! I'm glad to hear your expert, graduate opinion things nothing is wrong with the corolla. Now if only summer could come sooner.... Thanks!
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 06, 2007 9:19 am) Cheers! |
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Replying to: jasmine5 (Feb 06, 2007 11:39 am) I have taken the corolla on one long trip and i averaged 40 mpg - I was smiling!!!! I'm glad to hear your expert, graduate opinion things nothing is wrong with the corolla. Now if only summer could come sooner.... I'm definitely no expert, but I do have some knowledge about what will help and hinder mileage. Call it a moderately educated opinion.  My ex-GF drives her Corolla pretty hard, and averaged 31 MPG with mix city/hwy driving. I drove her car two days worth while mine was in the body shop getting repaired, and I averaged 35 MPG in similar conditions to her 31 MPG (driving styles are important). Still, you'll get better mileage at 85 MPH than you will doing stop and go at 5 MPH. The fact that you got 40 MPG makes me pretty certain your Corolla is fine. Happy to have discussed this! 
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