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Sedans Honda Civic Honda Civic vs Toyota Corolla vs Mazda3
879 messages, Last post on Nov 25, 2008 at 2:57 PM
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Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 19, 2006 2:07 pm) The '07 Corolla is not offered as an XRS model. Toyota killed it in '06.
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Replying to: rorr (Dec 19, 2006 2:14 pm) |
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not likely going to liven anything up....Dual VVT-i and it only gained 4hp over the current engine
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Replying to: jcturbo (Dec 19, 2006 3:22 pm) Most buyers of $16k-$19k cars aren't racers or speed demons. They want a compromise of capable handling, comfortable ride, safe power/braking, safety features, and interior luxury, with economy as a bonus. I meant the new Corolla should liven up the conversation, not necessarily a driver's pulse.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 19, 2006 6:37 pm)
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Replying to: jcturbo (Dec 19, 2006 7:15 pm) |
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Replying to: jcturbo (Dec 19, 2006 2:01 pm) The new civic would hold up fairly well against a corolla xrs. The si would 'destroy' it. 
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Replying to: jcturbo (Dec 19, 2006 2:01 pm) Well, the XRS is no longer made, and the Mazda3 in that comparo was an automatic, not manual like the others. The XRS also had a solid rear axle, I do not know how it handled better. I have never seen anything anywhere else that a Corolla handled better then a Civic or Mazda3. |
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I don't understand why everyone is bringing in the XRS and SI into this; at this rate, we might as well include the speed3 huh? So to make this simple, I'm just going to compare the base models w/ no options (those you can add yourself hence 'options' ^^) Engine wise, the mazda3 has my vote, its the biggest and hence has the best torque to it, but it does have lower mpg (I don't care what ads say theres no way a larger pistoned combustion engine can have lower mpg than a smaller one). Too bad under hard revving the engine sorta just simmers down, while the civic revs nicely and evenly. The corolla just makes alot of noise; I had 3 other sit in the car w/ me for all 3 cars and the corolla did the worst at accelerating. (all were manual) Even when holding the low gears the car would not go, even the civic and mazda3 went along nicely. FYI: the corolla has 4 doors, but those are really just for looks, the car really does struggle when you put 4 people in it. This is probably why most ppl complain about not getting the advertised mileage on their corollas b/c they are constantly pushing the engine just to keep up w/ traffic. Interior the mazda3 looks nice and all, but it really is kinda tacky. The plastic parts seem cheaper when compared to the civic and corolla, but the sound for all three cars were pretty good. The seats for the mazda3 had a somewhat wannabe racey feel in that they grip your body, but comfortably, which is not something I'm used, 'racing' seats aren't supposed to be THAT comfy. Also the mazda3's seat adjustment used the turning knob thingies. I sat only in the driver's seat so interior room I can't say much, I'm not some 7 ft tall monster so I can't say much about interior head/leg room. The gauges for all the cars are sufficient, all I need to do is be able to see them, but if you want sporty the mazda3 and corollaS has decent gauges, while the civic has innovative/quirky gauges. The instrument panel is easy to use on all cars though I'm not sure if it was me, but the mazda3 had a bit too many buttons for my taste, while the civic looks weird w/ the empty panel where the GPS is supposed to be. In the handling dept. the mazda3 is very good for zipping around traffic, the steering is quick and responsive, though feedback is quite close to nill. On freeways this could get annoying, during my test drive it was kind of windy and I had to constantly readjust the steering against winds and road bumps. The civic and corolla feel less nimble, but on the freeway they make for easier drives. All cars handle about the same to me under normal driving conditions, but under hard cornering the mazda3's engine showed its draw back in having the heaviest engine of the 3 cars. But nobody is going to be driving any of these cars hard... right? You can go try it on your own I personally preferred civic in this dept. Price wise the cars were off by $1000 or so, and that didn't bug me horribly. Honda and Toyota's reliability are pretty solid in my book, but I've had a couple of bad experiences w/ mazdas in the past, although you do get a bit more w/ the mazda3 for the price, but that just tells me something about quality in the car. Looks is a personal preference hence I will stay off the subject. W/ these cars what I tend to see are people either liking it, or hating it.
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Replying to: ezpilze (Jan 30, 2007 9:03 pm) What do you currently drive? How important is fuel economy in your choice? How long did you spend test driving each car? Did you use a similar "track"? had a couple of bad experiences w/ mazdas Which Mazdas had issues? you do get a bit more w/ the mazda3 for the price, but that just tells me something about quality in the car. Do you mean that the quality is related to the price (i.e. higher price equals higher quality)?
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