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#489 of 879 Re: Mazda3 MPG [eldaino] by coosamtn Dec 12, 2006 (12:51 pm)
Replying to: eldaino (Dec 12, 2006 10:12 am) eldaino, is the civic's emergency brake handle against your right leg a problem for you? Replies to this message: thegraduate (Dec 12, 2006 1:06 pm) eldaino (Dec 12, 2006 1:23 pm)
#490 of 879 Re: Mazda3 MPG [aviboy97] by thegraduate Dec 12, 2006 (1:06 pm)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Dec 12, 2006 12:47 pm) The Mazda3 is also 1 second quicker 0-60   How so? The most recent comparison places the Mazda 3 and Honda Civic against each other. While I think the 3 is a very nice car, I think you have overexaggerated some test numbers based on the Motor Trend article I read and have sitting in front of me now.   Honda Civic LX - $17,555:   33 MPG 0-60 in 7.7 seconds Quarter Mile in 16.1 87 MPH Top Speed 125 MPH Lane Change 64.6 MPH   Mazda 3s Touring - $18,885   27 MPG 0-60 in 7.3 seconds Quarter Mile in 15.8 88 MPH Top Speed 118 MPH Lane Change 66.3 MPH   So, for an extra 6 MPG, you give up .4 seconds to 60 MPH, less than that in the quarter mile, and some extra grip.   It's not a runaway, aviboy. If fuel economy is at all in consideration, the Civic may just top people's list. If max sport tops your list, then the 3 should be up your alley.   Replies to this message: eldaino (Dec 12, 2006 1:34 pm) thegraduate (Dec 12, 2006 1:47 pm) aviboy97 (Dec 12, 2006 2:05 pm) thegraduate (Dec 12, 2006 2:14 pm) d_hyper (Dec 12, 2006 2:29 pm) and 1 more...
#491 of 879 Re: Mazda3 MPG [coosamtn] by thegraduate Dec 12, 2006 (1:06 pm)
Replying to: coosamtn (Dec 12, 2006 12:51 pm) I know the question wasn't directed at me, but at 6'4", the emergency brake in the Civic sedan was no problem.
#492 of 879 Re: Mazda3 MPG [coosamtn] by eldaino Dec 12, 2006 (1:23 pm)
Replying to: coosamtn (Dec 12, 2006 12:51 pm) not really. I'm only 5'8 and it never 'dug' into my leg like others have said. Your knees usually touch something when you sit a certain way and in the civic, its usually the ebrake handle. It was never ever an issue for me.
#493 of 879 Re: Mazda3 MPG [aviboy97] by eldaino Dec 12, 2006 (1:26 pm)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Dec 12, 2006 12:47 pm) i'm not one to go by numbers and like i said, the civic is just as capable. The 3 is shod with 17's in that test, and you can get them as an option, but the civic they tested has 16's. Its low numbers were also attributed to its tires; bridgestone turanza el 400s. Those are all season touring tires. The mazda has all seasons as well, but they were performance all seasons (usually either goodyear eagle rs-a's or toyo proxes.) Again its not mazdas fault the civic is shod like this, but handling is very dependent on tires as well. Even so, i'll take ACTUALLY driving both cars and putting them to thier limits in the REAL world over what some article has said. They are good places to start, but the civic handles just as competently nonetheless.
#494 of 879 Re: Mazda3 MPG [thegraduate] by eldaino Dec 12, 2006 (1:34 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 12, 2006 1:06 pm) Thanks for the numbers gradutate. I know avi is quoting the edmunds test, and both of those cars were automatics, but even so, i do belive that a second is a bit much, especially when they don't even cite what the ACTUALL 0-60 times were, they just said the 3 was faster.   I agree with the milage too; something i forgot to include in my post to avi: according to mt they averaged 6 mpg more; edmunds observed around seven. That is a big deal. I think, though, that the numbers you posted grad are for mt cars; my auto ex would never make it to sixty in under eight seconds. Mid nines and high eights at best but never that fast. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Dec 12, 2006 1:47 pm)
#495 of 879 Re: Mazda3 MPG [eldaino] by thegraduate Dec 12, 2006 (1:47 pm)
Replying to: eldaino (Dec 12, 2006 1:34 pm) Yes, I think around 9 sec for the EX Auto sounds about right, when I consider my 166 hp Accord Auto runs it in the mid 8s (Motor Trend, Feb 2003)   These were MT cars. When we are talking things like tenths of a second in acceleration, nobody is going to be able to notice much of a difference. More noticeable would be throttle response, which is just a matter of how it is programmed. The Corolla I used to drive (my ex-GFs) was plenty quick, but around town it felt like it could be outrun by an iceberg because the throttle tip-in was so soft.   More impressive on Mazda's behalf is braking, that is the only test where it showed a significant advantage on the Civic, and again, this is likely largely due to its smaller, less-sporty tires. Not an excuse, just the reason.
#496 of 879 Re: Mazda3 MPG [thegraduate] by aviboy97 Dec 12, 2006 (2:05 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 12, 2006 1:06 pm) I think you have overexaggerated some test numbers based on the Motor Trend article I read and have sitting in front of me now.     I over exaggerated nothing, read my post again, and you will see "according to Edmunds...." In which they did a comparo between the 06 Civic and 06 Mazda3.   Also, you will see my fuel estimate came directly from CR "real world" results, not Motor Trend. I did not make up anything I posted, I got them directly from editors who assessed these vehicles.   We can go back and forth all day on who wrote what, how fast each car is and get different numbers every time. I will agree that if you are looking for fuel economy as your #1 requirement, buy the Honda, if it is sportyness you are looking for, buy the Mazda. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Dec 12, 2006 2:14 pm) d_hyper (Dec 12, 2006 2:29 pm) thegraduate (Dec 12, 2006 2:34 pm)
#497 of 879 Re: Mazda3 MPG [aviboy97] by thegraduate Dec 12, 2006 (2:14 pm)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Dec 12, 2006 2:05 pm) I will agree that if you are looking for fuel economy as your #1 requirement, buy the Honda, if it is sportyness you are looking for, buy the Mazda.   We'll leave it there. Replies to this message: d_hyper (Dec 12, 2006 2:29 pm) thegraduate (Dec 12, 2006 2:34 pm)
#498 of 879 Re: Mazda3 MPG [thegraduate] by d_hyper Dec 12, 2006 (2:29 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 12, 2006 2:14 pm) I will agree if the happiness is your #1 requirement and better handling leads to more satisfaction in your life, you will become more productive and earn better salary to offset any MPG disadvantages. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Dec 12, 2006 2:34 pm)

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