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Civic LX and Corolla LE test drives by acgood
Dec 22, 2005 (2:32 pm)
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I drove both of these cars yesterday (Hartford, CT area). Though I still may end up buying a larger car, I don't know how anyone could drive these two back to back and walk away prefering the Corolla.
 
The Corolla had slightly larger trunk and better room in the back seat I'd say. The driver seat also goes back further to accomodate those of use with long legs. However, when I put the seat back to a comfortable distance, the steering wheel was much to far away. I knew the driving position was unacceptable for me before I made it off the dealer lot. I don't know what posessed them to give it such a stumpy steering wheel. The drive feel was about what I expected from a Corolla, not quite enough kick going 0-45 as I would prefer, but okay. The one I drove lacked ABS and side air bags, so sticker was ~17k.
 
I had to sit in the Civic for a couple minutes to just absorb the interior. I honestly still don't know if I like it, but the dash layout grew on me as I drove. I still found myself lookign down at the tachometer where my eyes are trained to look for the speed display. The engine and power are a significant step up from the current Corolla. Didn't get to take them onto the highway this time though. The 140 hp engine was pretty good but still felt like nothing compared to the 2005 i4 Camry LE (10k miles) I also drove at the same time. That may end up being my choice for about $500 more than the Civic.
 
Happy holidays to all!
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Re: Civic LX and Corolla LE test drives [acgood] by thegraduate
Dec 22, 2005 (11:21 pm)
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Replying to: acgood (Dec 22, 2005 2:32 pm)

The 140 hp engine was pretty good but still felt like nothing compared to the 2005 i4 Camry LE (10k miles) I also drove at the same time.
 
This probably has less to do with the horsepower difference (14, I think, by the new standards)and more to do with the torque (32 lb-ft). The Camry does have 33% more displacement than the Civic does, so it's understandable. The Civic gets 6mpg better, so its a trade-off if you don't mind buying used. Let us know what you pick, and good luck! Either car would likely be a good choice (assuming the Camry was treated nicely by owner number 1).
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Re: Civic LX and Corolla LE test drives [acgood] by keptname
Feb 05, 2006 (8:43 pm)
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Replying to: acgood (Dec 22, 2005 2:32 pm)

I too test drove both of these models and actually did walk away with a preference for the corolla. The civic seat was uncomfortable. The neck part sits forward far enough to strain my neck (I'm 5'2'') and the seat part was a bit hard. Plus, I absolutely hate the large dash and the set up. I don't need added distractions right at the viewing of the road. The frame around the front part of the window is inconvenient for viewing pedestrians and cars during left turns. I found myself having to do a lot of double checking.
 
The corolla drove smoother, but the civic had a bit more pick up and a go (for a 4cyl). This was so dissapointing because I had my heart set on the civic. It has all of the safety features i want as standard (esp side airbags) and I could more easily purchase it. The corolla will take longer for me to find with these options. However, my view was not obstructed and the seats were more comfy.
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Re: Civic LX and Corolla LE test drives [keptname] by backy
Feb 06, 2006 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: keptname (Feb 05, 2006 8:43 pm)

Your experience confirms what I have read and experienced with the Corolla--its driving position is optimized for shorter people. I found the driving position of the Corolla to be intolerable (I'm 5'10"). If the Corolla is more comfortable, that is a big deal--you will probably regret it later if you get a car that doesn't "fit" you. If you have trouble finding a Corolla with ABS and SABs, ask your dealer to locate one for you from another dealer.
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Re: Civic LX and Corolla LE test drives [keptname] by crissman
Feb 06, 2006 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: keptname (Feb 05, 2006 8:43 pm)

This is interesting. My wife complained that the headrest on my new '06 Civic was pushing her head forward. She's about 5'4". I'm about 5'10" and have no problem with it.
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Re: Civic LX and Corolla LE test drives [backy] by keptname
Feb 07, 2006 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: backy (Feb 06, 2006 7:35 am)

Thanks Backy. I've been debating if I should just put up with the discomfort and get a civic. I think I will go with the corolla. Now its just a matter of getting through the negotiation process.
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Re: Civic LX and Corolla LE test drives [crissman] by keptname
Feb 07, 2006 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: crissman (Feb 06, 2006 8:34 am)

I think what Backy said is true. Shorter people have a difficult time with the seat position in the civic. I just found this as well.
http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-message?message_id=436690
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New Corolla design by aviboy97
Feb 07, 2006 (11:55 am)
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Has anyone seen or heard if there is a new Corolla comming out soon? I'm really currious to see if it will be a big change, kind of like how the 2007 Camry is a vast improvement from the 2006.
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Re: Civic LX and Corolla LE test drives [keptname] by backy
Feb 07, 2006 (2:22 pm)
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Replying to: keptname (Feb 07, 2006 9:06 am)

Actually, what I said was that taller people have found the Corolla's seat uncomfortable. I found the Civic's seat to be OK, but not great.
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Re: New Corolla design [aviboy97] by backy
Feb 07, 2006 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Feb 07, 2006 11:55 am)

The next Corolla should be out as a 2008 model, sometime in 2007, if Toyota follows its traditional 5-year cycle. I think the 2003 Corolla came out early in 2002, so that could mean an early 2007 launch for the next Corolla. All this is supposition, based on history.

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