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#111 of 274 Re: 2003 KJ Question for Mac [keats]
by erickpl
Oct 23, 2006 (8:25 am)
Consider, overall, the Wrangler is a much simpler Jeep than the GC, or even the Liberty, esp with electronics.
My TJ was a first year of production. Other than the manifold breaking (still fairly common in newer TJ's), and a nagging pinion seal leak, it is has been a good Jeep.
It had the radiator leak that still happens (cuz it is essentially the same radiator) to newer TJ's as well, but I fixed that myself.
-Paul
#112 of 274 I forgot to mention...
by div2
Oct 23, 2006 (9:18 am)
...that whatever I buy is also going to serve as my daily driver AND I'm not going to spend over $20K- preferably much less. I think I've found a couple of potential purchases, but nothing certain- yet, anyway...
#113 of 274 New Site Format
by wpowell
Oct 26, 2006 (8:36 am)
OK, I reserved judgement when the idea of splitting up the generic Wrangler forum was raised; I wanted to give it a chance. Well, I for one don't care for it. Previously, if I wanted a specific piece of information the "search" function would usually spit it right out. But, more often I just wanted to "hang out" here and see what was on everyone's mind or to-do list. Edmunds, you rearranged the furniture which I'm sure seemed like a good idea. Please put it back where it was; I'm tripping over the couch on the way to the bathroom.
Edit: please note that this is the first post in 3 days to the new "hangin' out" forum.
#116 of 274 Re: New Site Format [wpowell]
by 99tj
Oct 26, 2006 (3:58 pm)
couldn't agree more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edmunds Brass (this is not directed at our friendly hosts) - -All your doing is killing this forum. When we were told that the forum would change to this format, there wasn't one positive response by the folks that frequent this site the most. I've been monitoring this forum for about 2 years now and try to contribute now and then if there's a subject I feel confident about. Mac, Tom, Mtgrl and many others have been here longer and are nice enough to field most of the questions. None of us feel like perusing 500 topics with one or two posts. (it will reach 500 in no time by the way.....actually it probably won't without anyone to answer the questions!). I've used this forum for many do-it-yourself projects and have saved a lot of money from the great suggestions from Mac and the gang.
I wonder what Daimler Chrysler thinks about this? I'm sure in one way or another they contribute to your site. There's a whole lot of talk about 2007 Wranglers on this site. It'd be a shame to drive away DC's best advertising. Word of mouth and good testimonials go a long way in someone making the decision to buy a new vehicle.
Listen to the folks that make these forums what they are. Go back to the way it was!!!!!
#117 of 274 Re: New Site Format [99tj]
by mac24
Oct 26, 2006 (4:50 pm)
Listen to the folks that make these forums what they are. Go back to the way it was!!!!!
Unfortunately I really don't see that happening. This whole change of direction to become like most other automotive forums has come from the top down. It certainly hasn't been driven from the bottom up.
Someone at a high level has decreed that this is the way to increase profitability, by increasing the number of hits Edmunds gets. More hits equal a higher advertising rate, which equals a greater income from the advertisers.
Unfortunately (again), it doesn't matter what we, the long timers and regulars, feel about the changes. In fact it doesn't really matter if we go away. Our number will pale into insignificance compared to the number of new hits that will be generated.
The new system will generate many more extremely specific thread titles. Whether or not those threads contain any pertinent information is irrelevant. What does matter is that someone using a search engine (Google etc.) will now find that Edmunds regularly appears close to the top of the results for their very specific search, as search engines will prioritize thread titles over content within them.
So, more search engine hits equate to more site hits. More site hits mean more income. It doesn't matter whether those people coming here find the answer they want, it's just the fact that they came that's important. Under the new site model it's important that as many people as possible come here asking questions and looking for answers, anything else is a bonus.
#118 of 274 Re: New Site Format [mac24]
by div2
Oct 26, 2006 (6:09 pm)
Unfortunately (again), it doesn't matter what we, the long timers and regulars, feel about the changes. In fact it doesn't really matter if we go away.
And if the newbies wind up finding little or no accurate/useful information, so what? It's the amount of hits that will determine the success of the new format.
#119 of 274 Can we proceed as always, just do it here?
by tsjay
Oct 26, 2006 (6:29 pm)
Can we old members just go on as usual in here, instead of in our old hangout, Jeep Wrangler? Maybe new folks will find us and ask some questions in here.
If nothing else, we can at least stay together and communicate amongst ourselves. I would hate to lose track of the good friends that I have in here.
Tomster
#120 of 274 Re: Can we proceed as always, just do it here? [tsjay]
by wheelsdown
Oct 26, 2006 (6:39 pm)
I'm in.
Terry