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Subaru Minivan in 2007?

92 messages,  Last post on Jun 19, 2006 at 4:56 PM

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#33 of 92
Yep by ateixeira
Jul 12, 2005 (9:03 am)
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Based on the ML SUV.
 
Thing is, it costs more than the ML, not less. Usually vans cost the same or less than similar SUVs (Sienna vs. Highlander, Ody vs. Pilot, etc.).
 
-juice
#34 of 92
Re: Yep [ateixeira] by once_for_all
Jul 12, 2005 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 12, 2005 9:03 am)

WOW! That is a sweet sounding machine. How good is the Mercedes AWD? Buckle that to their 7 spd automatic and the V-6 CDI diesel and it is probably worth forking over $50 grand.
 
John
#35 of 92
Benz AWD by ateixeira
Jul 12, 2005 (10:59 am)
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Similar to Subaru's VDC, with a rear power bias and traction control managing both axles.
 
-juice
#36 of 92
Re: Benz AWD [ateixeira] by once_for_all
Jul 12, 2005 (11:15 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 12, 2005 10:59 am)

so... how does Subaru fit into the minivan scenario? Lots of competition.
 
AWD minivans: Sienna, Benz... did I forget someone
 
FWD minivans: MPV (dying, apparently), Quest (not real hot), Ody (still the king), Sienna (highly rated), the new Mazda5 6 seater (has 5 speed and better mpg), and the T&C (not sure how highly rated they are), Ford Freestyle (come on Ford).
 
Must have missed someone, there sure are a lot of players here.
 
So can Subaru step in? An R-class minus $15? The value luxury van with AWD and boxer? Is there money to be made here?
 
John
#37 of 92
AWD Vans by ateixeira
Jul 12, 2005 (12:11 pm)
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Not sure if Chrysler still offers the option, I know it's not compatible with sto-n-go, but they might still sell one without that option. It's missing from my buying guide if it is still sold.
 
GM does sell an AWD version of the Uplander, though.
 
Not much competition.
 
-juice
#38 of 92
Re: Benz AWD [once_for_all] by navigator89
Jul 12, 2005 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: once_for_all (Jul 12, 2005 11:15 am)

The Ford Freestyle isn't a minivan, it's an SUV crossover, sharing the platform with the Five Hundred. Ford's minivan is the Freestar, which is apparently outclassed.
 
You forgot the caravan, which I believe is the best selling van for a long time now.
 
You missed all the GM vans, Uplander, Terraza, Montana SV6 and Relay. You forgot also the Sedona, which will be all new for 2006, which is when Hyundai launches its van, the Entourage.
 
An R-Class isn't really a minivan, I'd put it more in the field of SUVs like the SRX, FX45, X5, basically the fast car based SUVs.
 
Good luck Subaru. This maybe the most fun to drive van yet.
#39 of 92
R Class by ateixeira
Jul 13, 2005 (7:27 am)
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But the R-Class is a crossover in the same manner as the Freestyle. Not that I see them competing...
 
He's talking about AWD vans specifically, not FWD.
 
-juice
#40 of 92
Re: Benz AWD [navigator89] by once_for_all
Jul 13, 2005 (7:39 am)
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Replying to: navigator89 (Jul 12, 2005 3:33 pm)

Nav, thanks for the completed list. Lots of competition there.
 
If the Freestar isn't a minivan, what does Ford offer? I thought the Windstar was history.
 
Ford should have embraced the MPV as their minivan offering, we own one and it is a well put together package.
 
Geez the GM line: I thought there was a GM "trio" but now there are four.
 
A good dozen minivans. Probably the Sienna will be the only AWD competitor for the Subie.
 
John
#41 of 92
Freestar by ateixeira
Jul 13, 2005 (8:32 am)
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That's their current van, though it sells so poorly I can't blame you for not noticing it.
 
Ford wants to cancel it and build something like the Fairlane concept, which would share Freestyle parts.
 
-juice
#42 of 92
strech tribeca by 5-7 inches by sweet_subie
Jul 13, 2005 (9:20 am)
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just, strech tribeca by 5-7 inches & offer a XL Tribeca. job done. no need for subaru to get into minivan if they do this.
 
this will compete well with minivans.

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