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#153 of 221 Re: Huge problem with my new C6 Z06!!! [alenatasevich1] by russla Feb 14, 2006 (1:54 pm)
Replying to: alenatasevich1 (Feb 14, 2006 10:31 am) Let me keep this short.   If the car sits too long it may qualify for lemon laws. (or has too many issues in a short time) or what ever it takes to qualify for your state. If it does qualify, then use the laws by all means. (you should get a new one) WHEN and IF it does. No one here is against this line of action, and would hope you'd be victorious given those conditions were met. But as far as I know, Lemon laws don't cover how you feel about the car. The warranty remains unchanged, so statistically it is seen as reliable. they also don't enforce customer satisfaction.   I fail to see where GM violated their agreement with you. So if they're performing on their end, I don't see the just cause for demanding changes to the contract.   lets just hope they can't get the parts, and you have no issues using the lemon laws   Kind regards Replies to this message: jpstax1 (Feb 15, 2006 6:16 pm)
#154 of 221 Lemon Law? by blkhemi Feb 14, 2006 (5:17 pm)
Depending upon which state the car was purchased and the state where the owner resides, the lemon law can be invoked in which case the claimaint can in fact be "dissatisfied" with the purchase. No matter the "contract", if the vehicle is idle or inoperable due to means beyond owner and manufacturer, then a "suitable" replacement of equal value at time of replacement in lieu of parts and labor and money down can be enforced under most conditions, this being one of them.   The vehicle had a "major" manufacturer blemish(to say the least) from the start, in which the owner sustained major lapses of driveability due to and recognized by the dealer and the manufacturer.   Enough of the law talk. It's not about customer satisfaction or buyer's remorse or dissatisfaction. The owner bought the car on principal of believing it would drive and operate as advertised, from day one.   The contract says they'll replace the part with a new or rebuilt at their discretion. Well technically, in the eyes of the federal government, at certain months and miles of ownership, the car is still considered new. So at the least, the engine will in fact have to be new. Most states lemon laws are very straight foward and to the point on matters, especially a case as such as this one. It would be wise to get all of the info on the states regulatory lemon law procedures as they vary greatly year-to-year. Keep us posted.   Justin P. Spencer, ESQ
#155 of 221 Hi, folks... by claires HOST Feb 14, 2006 (10:28 pm)
I apologize for not stepping in sooner. The lemon law issues and critiques of GM are dragging this discussion off-topic at this point.   Those who'd like to continue discussing GM's policies/practices, customer service, and warranty issues will find plenty of takers in the News & Views and Smart Shopper Forums.   Drive on over and see me!
#156 of 221 Re: Huge problem with my new C6 Z06!!! [russla] by jpstax1 Feb 15, 2006 (6:16 pm)
Replying to: russla (Feb 14, 2006 1:54 pm) I thought all LS7 engines were hand-built, with only one technician involved from start to finish. In fact, there was one on display at the Chicago Auto Show yesterday. It looked like it had lot more moving parts and was much more complex than the other V8 engines on display. I wonder how much actual testing went into the development phase of this engine? To me, using a motor with a dry-sump lubrication system could be a disaster waiting to happen, given enough running time. Since it's based on the C6R engine, maybe more testing should have been done to ensure long-term reliability. Am I right? I read where it took GM several years to develop the 5.3 (DOD) engine.
#157 of 221 Just drove the C6 Z06 at Spring Mt. Motorsports Park by starrow68 Feb 18, 2006 (1:54 pm)
Fantastic Rocketship, just loafing around, wasn't about to push it when only doing a few laps, I was still doing 10mph faster at the end of the back straight and braking earlier since I wasn't comfortable to depend on brakes that I know are better but I'd only used for about 8 minutes. Biggest surprise was how docile the whole package was compared to my coupe and the school C5 Z06's, loafed one lap, pushed a couple corners where I was very comfortable on the second lap and then got well beyond the C5's on a third lap but still taking it very easy in the high speed over 100mph corners and comming on the straights where there were walls and limited runoffs.   BTW, just a few weeks after they got the car it turned up with a noisy valve train and GM swapped the engine in a week. FWIW Replies to this message: jpstax1 (Feb 18, 2006 4:49 pm) teamzr1 (Feb 20, 2006 7:46 pm)
#158 of 221 Re: Just drove the C6 Z06 at Spring Mt. Motorsports Park [starrow68] by jpstax1 Feb 18, 2006 (4:49 pm)
Replying to: starrow68 (Feb 18, 2006 1:54 pm) Here's proof that the C6 Z06 is as fast as some reports say it is:   http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-Chevrolet-Corvette-Videos-7055.html Replies to this message: teamzr1 (Feb 20, 2006 7:46 pm)
#160 of 221 Re: Just drove the C6 Z06 at Spring Mt. Motorsports Park [slvrm] by teamzr1 Feb 20, 2006 (7:46 pm)
You say you had the car 3 months, if the block in fact was cracked from the getgo the engine would not of held compression, water or oil and would never have passed the GM build tests before being shipped out of BG. In any case engine would have been running very badly.   You or someone drove car for 3 months so again there is no way the block had been cracked all that time. Impossible.   The no start is a common problem esp with a C6 where if shifter is not put in reverse then the NO KEY system never goes to sleep so that alone would not get you a brand new car.   As to engine, someone did that damage, if it was the dealer's people or someone taking it on a joy ride but the fact that no others have had a block crack says you lose in any court action since anyone with engine knowledge knows you cannot drive a cracked block for 3 months and not know about it.   If your to sue anyone it would be the dealer if you can prove engine was fine and not leaking when you took it in else they will insist you drove over something and did the damage. It may also be the tech in replacing starter ( which was not the real problem as to no start/ low voltage) torqued the bolts too much and they cracked the block.   In any case for Lemon law to kick in dealer has 3 bites of apple to fix it and at worst LL would allow a buy back for another Z06 and you pay the cost differences.   GM does not have to give a new car when warranty is to replace faulty parts and if GM decides it was done by abuse they do not even have to honor the warranty.
#161 of 221 And with a good sense of humor ... by starrow68 Feb 23, 2006 (8:47 am)
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/highway1/la-hy-neil14dec14,1,4188807.st- - ory?coll=la-news-highway_1   Just what the doctor ordered, if you want to pay $20k extra ...
#162 of 221 Re: Huge problem with my new C6 Z06!!! by jb_turner Feb 24, 2006 (7:17 am)
alenatasevich1 makes some good points to back up his assertion that he needs to be compensated with a new car however I feel that russla has stated some good common sense also. What will eventually matter is what documents were signed at delivery and what the lemon laws are for the state.  Lets use alenatasevich1's situation and use an Impala or a Korean car... do you think a replacement would also be warranted? although an Impala is not an 80k car however it has value none the less to the owner. A company can not stay in business if it replaced repairable cars with brand new cars.

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