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#521 of 530 Re: Porsche Quality? [habitat1]
by kyfdx HOST
Jun 14, 2007 (10:42 am)
The first one used Fords.. I think the Mercedes was in the sequel..
#522 of 530 Re: Porsche Quality? [kyfdx]
by habitat1
Jun 14, 2007 (2:09 pm)
Just checked and, right you are, the ML was introduced with ads for The Lost World sequel in 1997.
Hard to believe the original was in 1993 - 14 years ago. I'm getting old.
#523 of 530 Re: Porsche Quality? [habitat1]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 14, 2007 (6:54 pm)
I was quite pleased when T-Rex crushed the Explorer but really disappointed that he didn't eat those obnoxious children.
I suspect this was not the type of product placement Porsche was looking for
#524 of 530 Re: Porsche Quality? [Mr_Shiftright]
by habitat1
Jun 15, 2007 (3:22 am)
I was quite pleased when T-Rex crushed the Explorer but really disappointed that he didn't eat those obnoxious children.
Reminds me of a "Far Side" cartoon with two large polar bears coming upon an Igloo. "Boy, I love these - crunchy on the outside, gooey on the inside".
#525 of 530 HEy..I remember the Far Side cartoons..
by highender
Jul 13, 2007 (11:00 pm)
Well....to be honest, I am pretty biased when it comes to Porsche...
I still think the Cayenne, either the S or Turbo, is the best SUV , bar none, in terms of overall package and the original definition of "" SUV "" >>> meaning "sports utility vehicle."
turbo goes from 0-60 in 5.2 sec...better than many sports sedans or sports cars.... very good for a heavy SUV ( understatement)...
Plus it can really go off road...an important consideration, since Porsche wanted to sell many to MiddleEast and other parts of the world where the roads are not as developed nor as good as those found in the US.
We love the vehicle. We love the sports...we love the utility. Well, there is a lot of jealousy....Range Rover had to make the supercharged sports edition, to compete against the Cayenne, in terms of sports.
Well, I can see why some people who use and see vehicles as merely forms of transportation, to denigrate a great vehicle. Like Sex is just reproduction to some people.
The IMAX film "" SPEED "" used a Porsche Cayenne in one of its scenes... that should speak volumes.
Many people can afford a 911, maybe even a turbo 911, but with kids and lots of things...the Cayenne is jsut more practical. We had a Boxster S, but sold it due to lack of space for kids.... But what a great handling sports car....
To be fair,, I think the interior design of the RAnge Rover looks better. BUt some people feel it is more cluttered...which I disagree. I also like the looks....of both. We had lots of people stop and give a thumbs up for the car.....
#526 of 530 Re: HEy..I remember the Far Side cartoons.. [highender]
by british_rover
Jul 14, 2007 (4:59 am)
I still think the Cayenne, either the S or Turbo, is the best SUV , bar none, in terms of overall package and the original definition of "" SUV "" >>> meaning "sports utility vehicle."
Err but it doesn't really have that much utility.
It has the smallest cargo area in its class. It rides like a tank, and it is the least reliable Porsche. Some years of the Range Rover are marked ahead of it by JD Powers.
We have a Cayenne on the lot a fair amount of the time because people trade then in for Range Rovers and Range Rover Sports. The minute someone test drives them back to back with a Range Rover Sport they lose all interest in the Cayenne.
Their first question is usually something like...
"Why do people pay extra to have that harsh uncomfortable ride? If I wanted a Sports Sedan I would get one. That kind of Ride is fine in a Sports car or sedan but in a SUV it is just uncomfortable."
Like you said it is a 5,000 lbs SUV and you know what you shouldn't try and drive it like a sports car because it isn't. It is too heavy, it is too tall and you will just get yourself in trouble.
#529 of 530 Porsche changing directions
by texases
Oct 23, 2009 (1:59 pm)
What do you all think about Piech's recent statements about the Cayenne and Panamera being too big, the wrong vehicles, and they'll radically change (or drop) them at the next update? Here's More
#530 of 530 Re: Porsche changing directions [texases]
by andys120
Oct 24, 2009 (7:19 am)
I think Piech is exactly right, like all cars Porsches have gotten too big and too heavy
and there's too much intramural model competition within the VW stable