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#401 of 475 Re: HCH Cruise Control [highmpg] by thegraduate Jul 08, 2008 (10:11 am)
Replying to: highmpg (Jul 08, 2008 7:58 am) I think the computer gets irritated if you try to drive for better MPG & try to force shifting   The '06 HCH is CVT only isn't it? How would you "force shifting?"
#402 of 475 Shifting by highmpg Jul 08, 2008 (10:53 am)
That's a good question - you can force a shift by how fast & hard you press the gas pedal. If you quickly release the pedal it might shift to a higher gear & lower the RPM. If you push gas , hard & fast, it forces a down shift in the CVT.   On the Ford Escape hybrid this techniques gives the user some good results in many cases, but the HCH I have (2006) doesn't seem to respond well to any user generated sudden attempts to lower the RPM. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Jul 08, 2008 10:55 am)
#403 of 475 Re: Shifting [highmpg] by thegraduate Jul 08, 2008 (10:55 am)
Replying to: highmpg (Jul 08, 2008 10:53 am) Ah, I see what you are saying. It really doesn't "Shift Gears" but rather increases or decreases the gear ratio; already knew that - I just thought you meant I was forgetting a 5-speed manual or other option!
#404 of 475 Re: Low Miles Per Gallon [thegraduate] by nedzel Jul 10, 2008 (10:59 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 23, 2008 6:40 am) thegraduate: I think perhaps you were misinterpreting my post. I was in no way implying that Honda (or any other manufacturer) is misleading the public. EPA sets the standard test procedures and the manufacturers follow it. I'm sure that the manufacturers faithfully follow the EPA test procedures.   I was simply pointing out that the EPA generally doesn't perform the tests -- the manufacturers perform the test in accordance with the EPA procedures. The EPA does audit the results and does some testing of 10-15% of the cars to confirm that the manufacturers are following the procedures.
#405 of 475 Re: [misterme] by cn224 Jul 13, 2008 (10:44 am)
Replying to: misterme (Jun 30, 2008 8:34 am) Thanks for reply.   I can get only 47MPG max on my HCH 08 dashboard. How could you get 55MPG or higher?
#406 of 475 Re: [misterme] by gearhead8 Jul 14, 2008 (1:29 pm)
Replying to: misterme (Jun 28, 2008 5:55 am) You are right on! Steve, I know what you are talking about, and my experience says everthing you say is true. I test drove the Civic Hybrid but purchased a standard Civic LE. Most of the tips you offer apply to any vehicle. Using your methods I ALWAYS exceed the EPA MPG estimates for any vehicle I drive. I think the Prius makes better use of Hybrid technology, but these days they are hard to find on a dealer lot. A Civic Hybrid is a good second choice (In May 2008, I could have purchased one for $800 under MSRP). If more people would adopt your sensibilites and drove conservatively, we would cut our gasoline use in the USA by at least 33%. Unfortunately, attitudes and habits are hard to change. I don't hink we will ever see $3.00 per gallon gas again. Thanks for your post!!! gearhead4
#407 of 475 Re: Low Miles Per Gallon [hdowns20] by steveaa123 Jul 18, 2008 (8:25 am)
Replying to: hdowns20 (Jun 14, 2008 8:23 am) I changed tires on a 2006 HCH back in January after only about 40k miles when you could see the belts on the inside of both front tires. Dealer checked alignment but made no adjustment (per the printout it was within spec) and replaced tires with a different brand. Since that time, fuel economy is about 7 MPG worse. I have asked them to check the car twice subsequently and they say everthing is within spec. I currently believe the non-factory tires are the issue, but I don't see others blaming tires to this degree. Does anyone know of a service bulletin regarding this issue? Replies to this message: thegraduate (Jul 18, 2008 8:34 am) aue (Jul 18, 2008 8:53 am) thegraduate (Jul 18, 2008 8:59 am) donga (Jul 18, 2008 10:09 am)
#408 of 475 Re: Low Miles Per Gallon [steveaa123] by thegraduate Jul 18, 2008 (8:34 am)
Replying to: steveaa123 (Jul 18, 2008 8:25 am) Honda Civic 2006-2007 Issues Thread - Click Here   There has been a known problem where the rear control-arms of the suspension are causing premature tire wear on Civics. My dad's EX sedan (2007) required new tires at 30k miles, and needs them again at 54k miles after having the work done from a TSB a few weeks ago. He's currently trying to get Honda to pay a prorated amount on the cost of the two sets of tires that the car has ruined prematurely. You can read more about it at the link provided above.
#409 of 475 Re: Low Miles Per Gallon [steveaa123] by aue Jul 18, 2008 (8:53 am)
Replying to: steveaa123 (Jul 18, 2008 8:25 am) Not only is there a TSB on the rear control arm replacement; there are recalls on a possible short circuit in the battery system behind the back seat and a possible failure of the brake light switch due to over lubrication of the telescopic steering column. You should have been notified by Honda about the 2 recalls but nobody will notify you about the TSB. I found the TSB online and had to confront the dealer with it before they would do anything. The tires were at 44K and Honda wouldn't replace them, although they did replace the control arms. It is totally annoying that Honda purports to have the greenest vehicles in the universe and then treats its customers worse than any Detroit car companies would. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Jul 18, 2008 8:59 am)
#410 of 475 Re: Low Miles Per Gallon [aue] by thegraduate Jul 18, 2008 (8:59 am)
Replying to: aue (Jul 18, 2008 8:53 am) A TSB isn't made to be distributed to the public. Instead, it is given to service techs and advisors to help them know exactly how to diagnose and fix a commonly found problem.

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