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#31 of 540 Re: Honda Civic Hybrid 2005 - mileage FALSE ADVERTISING [duddy]
by lamu9
Aug 03, 2005 (2:07 pm)
I read many discussion boards online prior to buying my hybrid. I spent the first 2 months re-learning how to drive and be mindful of things that can reduce mileage: air conditioning use, heavy load, tire pressure, stop and go, alot of acceleration and excessively high speeds. I have made concerted efforts to use the econ button when using air conditioning, not using A/C when open window is sufficient, keeping my tires at 35-40 psi, not carrying much of anything in the trunk when not necessary, driving in such a way as to anticipate changes in traffic to utilize the coasting feature (in which I see I'm supposedly getting over 60 mpg), and not driving over 60 or 65 unless I make a trip to Bakersfield (I've done this twice to visit family). I have tracked my mileage and gallons purchased and gallons consumed. I'm averaging 33 mpg. When I first got the car it was 23 mpg and then I even saw a couple of refills yielded 36 mpg but nonetheless I'm getting 30-33 mpg. I did indeed get the recall letter and promptly (2 weeks ago) got the service to the software. I have refueled since then and saw another 33 mpg tank gone by. I'm so frustrated and disappointed. I really love the concept of contributing to our environment in a positive way and for that reason I paid the extra cost to get this instead of regular civic. Yet, I felt that the payoff would be in miles per gallon savings. My old 1998 civic was getting almost this much in mileage and it worked great! I really am starting to wonder why I did this. Can anyone add that they saw significant changes in mileage with more time after the recall software is done? I drive 80% freeways on average...
#32 of 540 The average person ...
by kernick
Aug 03, 2005 (4:53 pm)
wants to get in a car and drive, just as they do today. If they're motivated they'll check the air pressure in the tires once a month. They are going to have kids and extra stuff in the vehicle. They are going to drive with traffic on freeways. They are not going to be anticipating traffic and avoiding lights and traffic jams as if many could avoid them. People are going to drive at -10F on snow tires. This is real world.
I had an '88 Honda CRX w/auto that got 40mpg in those conditions. I would expect a hybrid version could get 50 mpg with no special attention to nursing the vehicle. If you can't just hop in an HCH and get 45-50mpg, why bother, and spend the extra money. Hopefully the new HCH will perform better in real-world as their marketing states.
#33 of 540 Re: Honda Civic Hybrid 2005 - mileage FALSE ADVERTISING [lamu9]
by hybridhater
Aug 04, 2005 (11:18 pm)
We had the post just above yours. Your story and ours are almost exactly the same. Our car always gets between 32 and 34 on a tank. We are just as mad about the whole thing. The mileage is the reason we bought the hybrid. We meet people whe own regular Civics and they say they get in the 30's. We took our car in to the dealer and they told us everything is working just fine. We dont know what to do. We would join you on the class action suit.
#34 of 540 Re: Honda Civic Hybrid 2005 - mileage FALSE ADVERTISING [hybridhater]
by stevedebi
Aug 05, 2005 (2:23 pm)
Be happy, my wife's 2002 Civic EX AT gets 26 MPG in the city.
#35 of 540 Interesting posts
by misterme
Aug 05, 2005 (7:17 pm)
with low MPG.
The average on the HCH is upper 40's, I have no idea why yours in paticular is so low.
Myself, if I depend on cruise control set at posted speed limits the car does upper 40's to low 50's.
My wife cares nothing about driving for efficiency and is a "hop in, gas and go" person and gets mid-upper 40's. (I have the CVT, MT should do a little better)
Good luck on your lawsuit, YMMV.
Some hypermilers are currently doing a marathon between them in this vehicle and exceeding 70MPH.
#36 of 540 Re: Interesting posts [misterme]
by misterme
Aug 06, 2005 (1:38 pm)
I need to correct myself about the marathon-
They are 4-5 hypermilers driving a single Prius 2 in over an extremely hilly course with about 7 stoplights. Still in progress, they are exceeding 100MPG using their techniques.
One of them drives a HCH MT and routinely gets over 90MPG in his daily commute.
THIS is amazing stuff!
#37 of 540 Re: Interesting posts [misterme]
by blane
Aug 07, 2005 (12:13 pm)
misterme,
Amazing stuff, but totally unrealistic for the folks in the real world.
#38 of 540 Re: I'm with you, Richard [hybridhater]
by falconone
Aug 09, 2005 (4:09 pm)
Probably is something wrong with the car. Maybe you can sell it and get a decent amount for it. A nice alternative would be a used HX which gets excellent mileage. They don't sell ytoo many of them,so it may be hard to find. On numerous websites lots of HCH owners are very happy with their mileage.
#39 of 540 Re: Honda Civic Hybrid 2005 - mileage FALSE ADVERTISING [stevedebi]
by falconone
Aug 09, 2005 (4:10 pm)
WOW...that's it? I guess the Lexus SUV gets better mileage than a Civic. That doesn't make any sense!!
#40 of 540 Re: Honda Civic Hybrid 2005 - mileage FALSE ADVERTISING [falconone]
by stevedebi
Aug 09, 2005 (4:29 pm)
"WOW...that's it? I guess the Lexus SUV gets better mileage than a Civic. That doesn't make any sense!!"
YMMV, and in the case of our car, it does vary. But it does get 37 MPG on the highway. I should also mention that my wife has a lead foot. I haven't yet driven the Civic through a full tank. But the car simply begs to be driven hard; it has so much zip and revs so easily.
BTW, your Lexus SUV also costs about 3 times what my Civic set me back. (OK, maybe 2.5 times). Anyone care to figure out how long you'd have to drive that Lexus SUV to break even?