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#31 of 50 Re: Er...ah...yeah [davhan]
by gagrice
May 24, 2006 (5:00 pm)
I guess that's why we are all thought of mushrooms down here!
Don't be so hard on yourself man, we are not told the truth at least half the time in the US. I do think you are wise to get the Honda Civic Hybrid. Nice solid vehicle and with your gas prices and commute it will pay for itself. I still want one of those Ford Ranger diesels you have. Is your diesel as expensive as gas (petrol)?
#32 of 50 Diesel is more expensive
by davhan
May 24, 2006 (5:48 pm)
Diesel is actually MORE expensive than petrol...by about 10-15 cents per litre. This is because Diesel is not that popular here yet. Not sure about the Ford Ranger. Is that a "pickup" style or commuter style. I'll have to go to www.ford.com.au and take a look. We do have small car diesel's, but they are fully imported mostly...Peugot etc. and quite expensive too. Diesel's for the most part are looked on as noisy, smelly and something that farmer Brown drives around "on".
So any saving you make on the efficiency of a diesel is lost in the extra cost of the vehicle and the fuel. Pretty dumb really because I know in Europe that diesel's far outsell petrol.
Jun 02, 2006 (2:19 pm)
Hey all, just bought an 06 HCH about a month ago, have ~1400 miles on it and just filled the tank for the 2nd time... Lifetime MPG so far is 51.4. 669.3 first tank, 667.7 2nd tank. ~12.5 gallons to fill it each time. Silly stuff.
I love the car. It's a totally different driving experience than anything else, but the combination in technology of the IMA system with the CVT is really spectacular. I cant believe how often the VVT closes the valves on the engine and shuts off fuel supply to conserve gas. It'll do it for a few seconds at a time, but they add up on my 90 mile/day commute...
And BTW, the car *can* run on electric only at 60+ mph. Not for LONG, mind you, but it can...
And for all who are considering it, the Nav system is a great option. It's very accurate, and I love the PC card slot. I got a PCMCIA flash memory adapter and a 4GB flash memory card and dumped upwards of 700 songs on it. They are all accessible thru the folders via touchscreen. Very cool stuff.
Jay
Jun 05, 2006 (6:32 pm)
Real world numbers how much does it cost to replace the hybrid battery?
#35 of 50 New 2006 HCH
by ski49
Jun 13, 2006 (4:26 pm)
I picked up my 2006 HCH three weeks ago and have put more than 1,800 miles on it so far. My 1st tank was only 41.48 mpg, next was up to 46.07 followed by slow increases to 46.40 and finally 46.97. My travels the 1st tank was 90% city. The next three have been 60% highway & 40% city. In all cases the on board computer mileage estimates were 1.5 mpg less than what computing the mileage using actual miles driven vs actual gas purchased.
So far I couldn't be happier with the driving expierence and mileage. Especially since the mileage is more than double what I was getting with my 2003 CRV.
In other posts I saw a number of comments concerning the lack of a fold down rear seat or at least a pass thru to the trunk, along with the lack of a power sun roof, larger tires & wheels, and the rather misleading XM ready labels on the radio.
Fold down rear seat / pass thru - can't be done due to the fact that the battery pack sits directly behind the rear seat.
Power sun roof - weighs too much which would reduce mpg.
Larger tire and wheels - see power sun roof.
XM ready radio - as much as I would like to force the issue with Honda I already owned an XM radio that I had removed from my previous vehicle. Installation in the HCH was only $80.00 by Circuit City instead of the $400+ Honda wants and the $450 for the XM module. You can but an XM or Sirius radio for less than $100 plus installation and use the money saved for other fun things. I simply plug it into the auxillary port and it works great.
#36 of 50 Re: New 2006 HCH [ski49]
by davem7
Jun 13, 2006 (8:28 pm)
I agree that the price for the integrated XM radio for the '06HCH is excessive.
On my '06HCH I have the integrated unit, on my previous '05HCH I had the "Roady" type.
I have found the difference in performance between the integrated and the "Roady" types to be considerable with the integrated superior.
As I understand it the integrated type has a dedicated frequency for XM, witb the "Roady" types you have about 8 FM frequencies to choose from. Depending on your location you may receive overriding interference from a non XM station on the same channel and it may require switching frequencies. This has never happened with the integrated type-there is no other frequency to switch to.
I've had no experience with Sirius.
#37 of 50 Re: New 2006 HCH [davem7]
by ski49
Jun 20, 2006 (7:24 am)
Sorry for the delay in replying.
I don't use the FM frequency mode for my Roady2. In my 2006 HCH there is an auxillary port that is directly compatible with the Roady2 using a simple standard connection available at any Radio Shack or similar store.
It will plug in right below the cigarette lighter and is also used to attach and MP3 player and similar items. Using this connection method gives almost exactly the same performance as the dealer installed unit. To hear the XM radio simply chose the AUX button.
#38 of 50 Re: New 2006 HCH [ski49]
by moparbad
Dec 07, 2006 (11:45 am)
Power sun roof - weighs too much which would reduce mpg.
22 lbs.
That is difference in curb weight of a car with power sunroof and without power sunroof with all other equipment being the same. The results were obtained using Mitsubishi Lancer.
Power Sunroof is not going to affect mileage in any significant manner at all whatsoever.
#39 of 50 RE: Disappointed [hybrid_bri]
by rogerb46
Feb 16, 2007 (4:14 pm)
Windows down can actually increase gas consumption as well! Air-stream effect or something like that.
#40 of 50 A/C with windows closed vs no A/C windows open
by grumpy64505
Sep 28, 2007 (6:53 am)
On my 2002 HCH is seemed as though I got better mileage with the windows closed and A/C on, but with my 2006 going the same speed and the same road I get better mileage with the A/C off and windows open. I don't care about aerodynamics and anything else, I just know my personal results.
Also, the 2006 is far superior to the 2002 in size, pep, and mileage.
I love this car.
Winds, hills, heavy foot will make a difference. I can control the last one, but not the first two.
Someone earlier mentioned the Accord Hybrid. We drove one prior to purchasing the Civic and chose the Civic.
The Accord is a SUPER car, but I could not justify the cost when it only got a couple of miles more per gallon. The performance was terrific and I could have gotten a lot of tickets with it but chose to pass.