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Re: Ford Escape Hybrid Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [KarenS] by smitty150
Dec 08, 2006 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: KarenS (Jun 20, 2005 11:03 am)

We love the FEH 4WD. My wife wants to steal it from me. It rides and handles better than our Sienna Van.
 
My only concern is a drop in MPG from the low 30s to around 29-30 MPG.
 
However, maybe I should add a few things.
 
1. My longest drive is 24 miles RT, takes about 40 minutes (20 each way), and is mostly 35-45 MPH with about 6 stops at lights.
 
2. I also do a lot of short hauls (errands) in the 3-5 mile range between stops which can number up to 4 or so.
 
3. Its gotten colder in the last month and this corresponds to the mileage drop. Is there a correlation?
 
4. I do "baby" the accelerator and can often get it on battery for a few blocks at least.
 
Ideas and reactions greatly appreciated!
 
Smitty from Southern Oregon
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Re: Ford Escape Hybrid Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [smitty150] by mecheng1
Dec 11, 2006 (6:50 am)
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Replying to: smitty150 (Dec 08, 2006 4:55 pm)

Seasonal changes are reported as common in many climates. (FL and AZ report seasonal improvements as A/C is not used as much).
 
Your commute sounds relatively good for the FEH design. Colder weather can cause:
More ICE run time to keep the HO2 (exhaust) sensor warm.
More ICE run time when in defrost mode.
HVBattery does not accept regen brake charging as efficiently at the lower temps.
Regenerative braking is turned-off at extremely low temps and if any wheel slip is sensed.
 
All of which could explain a drop in FE of 1-2 mpg. Are you using "L" as much or more as you are using "D"? Knowing when to switch between the two on your particular commute could help.
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Re: Four molded plastic mud flaps...from dealer [mecheng1] by wilcox
Dec 21, 2006 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Dec 08, 2006 7:40 am)

Thanks for your post on this matter.
 
I have just purchased Mariner Hybrid. The dealer slappped the tire black stuff on just before delivery, and sure enough, relative to my initial observation, the compound slung off and on to the fenders. That means protection is needed there.
 
Being a firm beliver in mud flaps, I was hoping someone would offer decent flaps for the Escape or Mariner.
 
How do your flaps look and function?
a. good
b. better
c. super
d. none of above
 
Did you have any clading issues on vehicle while installing?
 
I wonder what mpg penalty may be incurred by extra air resistance...
a. none
b. little
c. NA
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Re: Four molded plastic mud flaps...from dealer [wilcox] by mecheng1
Dec 22, 2006 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: wilcox (Dec 21, 2006 7:28 am)

You should get most of your answers by reading this thread on this other forum:
http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/showthread.php?t=9262&page=2&highlight=marine- r+mud+flaps
 
Especially post#3, post #4 is mine.
 
OEM molded flaps from Ford do say "Ford" on them...not too cool on the MMH.
 
The molded flaps look great because they look like they belong. They are not 100% effective - but then none of the ones I have had on any vehicle are. Some stuff still gets by - but not like the recently applied wheel black does when no flaps are in place.
 
Because of how turbulent the airflow is behind the tires...I doubt the flaps affect the aerodynamics very much.
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Re: Four molded plastic mud flaps... [mecheng1] by wilcox
Jan 10, 2007 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Dec 22, 2006 7:40 am)

Thanks for the information mecheng1.
 
I purchased some husky mud flaps for Mariner Hybrid but the front ones did not fit...must return. I ordered Escape/Tribute types.
 
Put Escape door sill guards all the way around and am very satisfied with their appearance.
 
The vent shades called WeatherFlector Window Guards by WeatherTech have been installed. They go inside the channel rather than get glued to door painted surface. They look dynamite good.
 
As for fuel mileage. Our MMH was getting fairly poor mileage at first. I guess it was because it had sat on dealers lot (lost on their inventory record) for at least 3 months. So battery needed charging. I've had to reprogram my driving habits. Learn the quirks of hybrid piloting, breaking, CVT attributes, and other details.
 
At around 800 miles on odometer...
 
I'm recording 30.5 MPG average !
 
Not too cotton picken bad for a 4WD SUV
 
I read that this will improve over the next few thousand miles
 
Thanks again.
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Ran my tank dry by 69driver
Jan 17, 2007 (10:45 am)
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I usually let my tank get pretty empty before I fill up. But I've been noticing the fill up is only around 13 gallons, not 15.
 
So, I decided to let the tank run dry. I put some gas in a can, and hit the road.
 
After the gauge read 0 miles to empty it kept running for quite awhile.
 
I chose a road for my test with plenty of shoulder space, and not a lot of traffic.
 
When it finally died, I got a “Safely pull over now” message. I was still able to drive on battery once my speed was low enough.
 
The final number was 477 miles, at 31.9 mpg.
 
So, the mpg estimate displayed was correct 31.9 x 15 = 478 miles. The miles to empty are always off.
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Re: Four molded plastic mud flaps... [wilcox] by mecheng1
Jan 19, 2007 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: wilcox (Jan 10, 2007 1:00 pm)

Your FE should improve....but from what I've seen ...it improves more from the operator "re-learning" how to drive to get the most out of the hybrid technology than from any break-in period of the vehicle. Your ultimate FE is only limited by how much you want to employ the "hypermile-ing" tricks. Have fun!
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Re: Ran my tank dry [69driver] by wilcox
Jan 23, 2007 (11:59 am)
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Replying to: 69driver (Jan 17, 2007 10:45 am)

Good for you 69driver.
 
The same thought about testing had crossed my mind. I have a 5 gallon gas can...but...ain't got no time to burn.
 
Thanks for results.
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Re: Ford Escape Hybrid Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [KarenS] by twooaks
Jan 30, 2007 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: KarenS (Jun 20, 2005 11:03 am)

Brand new '07 4WD ... 22mpg with my first tankful (didn't measure the tankful from the dealer but it went quick also) ... I'm p*ssed off! Should I be? The PRIMARY reason I bought this was to lessen my carbon footprint ... trying to do my part with global warming. And to spend less on fuel of course ... factored that in when I bought it but if this is going to be the norm for mpg, it destroys my financial reason for buying. It's rated 29hwy/32city. I don't nail the gas pedal, haven't even floored it yet. I live in Indiana so it's colder weather right now ... mixture of hwy & city driving.
Any thoughts, ideas, opinions?
 
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Re: Ford Escape Hybrid Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [twooaks] by pf_flyer HOST
Jan 30, 2007 (5:20 pm)
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Replying to: twooaks (Jan 30, 2007 4:06 pm)

Even hybrids need to go through a break-in period. You're jumping a bit ahead of yourself by looking at the first tank of gas and thinking that's all there is. Give the car a chance to break in and yourself a chance to get used to driving it.

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