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Re: poor mileage [cchurch] by mecheng1
Aug 29, 2006 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: cchurch (Aug 29, 2006 8:04 am)

I have a 2006 FEH 4WD. From the posts and the forums I have read it seems that:
 
You won't ever get the EPA sticker numbers over the long term.
You can get varying numbers over repeated trips on the same roads based on changing:
Driving Habits - Accelerating, Braking, Cruising Speed,etc.
Weather - Extreme temps, use of A/C
Traffic - congestion, speeding
 
Consider the following tricks to improve mpg:
No jack-rabbit starts. You don't have to strain your leg to keep the truck in EV mode...as long as you limit the Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) under or close to 2000 rpm as much as possible.
Switch between L and D on the stick shift when it is advantageous - this will take some practice to discern when it is helpful to use the two different computer algorithms (there is no high or low gear range in an ECVT) You can feel the regenerative brake motor/generator drag the vehicle in L range but L will also let you engage EV mode up to 40 mph or so.
In D mode, start braking as early as possible to engage the regen brakes. Think of the brake pedal as a switch that turns on the regen brake as soon as you put the lightest touch on the pedal and then increase pressure only as needed to be safe.
Some folks report inflating their tires to 45psi or greater (sounds too harsh to me).
Lots of other ideas in some of these hybrid forums.
 
Remember to reset your mpg calculator frequently to monitor what types of roads and driving give you the best average. I have seen fluctuations of 5-6 mpg over the same roads. It may take a few weeks to learn what works best. I have had mine for only 6 months and I am saving a minimum of 10 mpg over my old 4-cylinder Isuzu Trooper.
Enjoy.
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Re: poor mileage [mecheng1] by ekiehn
Sep 02, 2006 (7:21 pm)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Aug 29, 2006 9:10 am)

I have a 2006 2WD that seems to average around 30 to 32 MPG in city driving. As hard as I try unless it is a moist misty day, I find it almost imposible to go from a stop without the gas engine kicking in (unless I take about 3 to 5 minutes to creep up to the 30 MPH cut in). Any ideas or suggested forums where I can get some input on how to fix this. When I test drove the 2005 models at the Ford Road Show I don't remember it being so hard not to have the Gas Engine kick in. Other than that, love the vehicle and I guess I shouldn't be complaining on the milage, but I know it could do better.
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34 MPG weekend trip in Escape Hybrid by escapehev
Sep 05, 2006 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: dehart (Aug 05, 2006 7:32 am)

Really great that you're doing that well in a 4WD!
 
I have a 2006 FWD Escape HEV with 7349 on the odometer... I consistently get better than 33 mpg, and just got back from the long weekend trip from Detroit to West Virginia... had the air conditioner on during the trip down and got stuck in one traffic jam that was bad enough that I ran out of battery power and the engine came back on... didn't go to any extremes like turning the engine off, still got over 32 on that part of the trip. My last 3-tank average of gas station receipts is 33.9 mpg, and I was frequently reading over 35 mpg on the 15 minute running average on the GPS console. I wasn't going that slow, either, I was doing the speed limit, which ranged from 55-70 mph, mostly using cruise control.
 
I just read a good article on hybridcars.com about maximizing mileage which has some advanced techniques I'm looking forward to trying... google for "An SUV that gets 45 mpg" to find it.
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Re: poor mileage [ekiehn] by cchurch
Sep 05, 2006 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: ekiehn (Sep 02, 2006 7:21 pm)

I have the same problem about it being very hard to push on the pedal without it starting the engine. I wonder if there is something that Ford can adjust to get it to kick in later. There should be no reason you can't drive 30 to 35 around the neighborhood on the battery.
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Re: poor mileage [mecheng1] by softpedal
Sep 06, 2006 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Aug 29, 2006 9:10 am)

Good driving tips, mecheng1, road conditions and traffic can affect mpg on both long trips, as well as driving around town. Once, when going about 60 mph along the edge road of Salton Sea, there were very strong headwinds all the way. My 4WD FEH 2006 only got 19 mpg! But when crossed over the mountain on more steady drive, went back up to about 30 mpg, avg speed about 65 mph. In town, keeping up with normal driving conditions, I find my mpg drops off to about 27, or less if really gunning it (OC driving is like that), but if driving out in wilderness where no competition, even on bad roads, it creeps back up to about 29, even with the air on. I agree that it is important to reset the MPG periodically, coasting and braking helps EV mode stay on more. I'll have my hybrid a year this month, and am very pleased with it, even on rough desert terrain, like abandoned old stage coach trails. It's fun!
 
I do have a couple of complaints: 1) I never know when I'm in 2 or 4 wheel mode, nothing on dash tells me (though I can feel the difference by the 'seat of my pants'); 2) my wife complains the passenger side mirror has no light in it! (she uses it more than me the driver) another Ford 'better idea'?
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Re: poor mileage [cchurch] by escapehev
Sep 06, 2006 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: cchurch (Sep 05, 2006 10:35 am)

I suspect they wanted it to behave as much like a normal car as possible, so starting up the gas engine to be ready for acceleration takes precedence over getting better mileage. I have noticed that when it has more juice in the battery, very little gas in the tank, or I've been driving really carefully for a good long time, it seems to get less sensitive, so I suspect the engine controller is learning from your driving patterns. I was reading the guide I mentioned and using low gear to brake and "hybrid tap" techniques on the way in to work this morning, and managed to break 37 mpg for my first time ever, saw 37.2 on the 15-min average when I parked.
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Re: poor mileage [escapehev] by ekiehn
Sep 07, 2006 (4:06 am)
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Replying to: escapehev (Sep 06, 2006 1:19 pm)

I tried the Hybrid tap and have been trying the low gear ting. The very best I now have been able to get is 35.3 but that was only a fleeting thing. My 15 min. drive t work on flat ground usually costs me mpg but the above technics at leasst have allowed me to stabilize at around 34.1.
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Real Mileage by warlok2
Sep 14, 2006 (5:34 am)
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I have a 2006 hybrid, purchased on January 3rd, of 2006. It took till mid summer (about 6 months) to really see an improvement from my 27mpg ave. Then I learned a couple of things. If you keep the tach just around 2000 for all of your driving, you will see about 34-35 mpg ave. If you go down to between 1500-1800 rpm, you will see the epa 36mpg, even with the i.c.e. running.
 
As for the starts, and keeping it from going into i.c.e., once you get going, release the pedal for a quick moment and then put the pressure on again. The tach will 'reset' so to speak. For some reason, the continuously variable transmission works by giving more power than is needed. Once you get to the speed that you want to drive at, do the quick release of the pedal, and you will see the rpms drop but your speed will remain up there. I can get 70mpg on the interstate and still be around the 2000 rpm!
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Re: poor mileage [ekiehn] by mecheng1
Sep 14, 2006 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: ekiehn (Sep 07, 2006 4:06 am)

Anyone that is using "hybrid driving tricks" to get mid-30s mpg in their FEH (for a regular commute) is probably close to the limits of its capability...and is way ahead of a V6 Escape or similar vehicle.
 
As for "premature" ICE cut-in, the 90 electric motor probably just isn't enough to propel the FEH from many dead stops (incline, etc.) From my experience, the computer is primed to cut-in the ICE at even the slightest suggestion that significant power will be needed.
 
I am sure Ford engineers had to program the FEH software for the 80% of the market that doesn't want to think about how the truck operates. Perhaps in the future there may be more than two algorithms to choose from (D and L), maybe a "Sport" and "Economy". But you'd hate to be Econ mode when you are at a stop sign and need immediate engine response to dart across an intersection ahead of oncoming cars, etc. I'm hoping that enough hybrids will be sold to support a healthy aftermarket in devices for these early models. (Like the plug-in kits that are already being developed for the Prius)
 
happy trails
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Re: Real Mileage [warlok2] by softpedal
Sep 22, 2006 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: warlok2 (Sep 14, 2006 5:34 am)

RE "As for the starts, and keeping it from going into i.c.e., once you get going, release the pedal for a quick moment and then put the pressure on again. The tach will 'reset' so to speak. For some reason, the continuously variable transmission works by giving more power than is needed. Once you get to the speed that you want to drive at, do the quick release of the pedal, and you will see the rpms drop but your speed will remain up there. I can get 70mpg on the interstate and still be around the 2000 rpm."
 
I've been trying this out, and sure'nough if I keep the tac low my mpg goes up. So far been milking it to keep tac between 1100-2000, and noticed added a couple of miles on the readout. Great if you're not racing with traffic, but the 'quick release' after go does seem to reset the transmission into higher mpg. Feels good.

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