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Ford Escape Hybrid, Fuel Efficiency (MPG)
#183 of 222 Re: Just got 2008- not bad milage [jimt2]
Jun 28, 2008 (6:27 am)
We took a trip 2 weeks ago from Tucson, AZ to Omaha, NE. After reaching Omaha, the MPG reading was around 33. After returning to Tucson, it was 31.1. This would indicate the return mileage was around 30MPG. I'm not sure why it was lower on the return trip. It might have been due to a different return path, different gas octane, or the elevation increase on the return trip. Total miles driven was 3292. In northern New Mexico and southern Colorado, there were times when we were driving up hill, 70MPH, with the AC running. The RPM of the engine would sometimes reach 5500. According to Ford, this is within normal operating range.
Overall, I thought it performed quite well on the trip!
#184 of 222 Re: Just got 2008- not bad milage [joseph85750]
Jun 28, 2008 (10:29 am)
There are too many variables to pin down a single reason, although elevation would be a big part of it, since the last time I checked Tucson is much more mountainous than Omaha. The engine revving to 5500 RPM is certainly in the operating range but should be an indication that the truck is running really hard. You may want to try different driving styles in a situation like that and just back off the power to ~3000 RPM and let your speed drop off, you'll save a bunch of fuel that way. In hilly sections I disconnect the speed control and drive manually, letting the speed drop off on the hills and ensuring that you get a full head of steam up going down the other side. You don't get to you destination noticably slower, and you allow the truck to deliver it's potential 33+ MPG on the road.
Jun 28, 2008 (1:47 pm)
I guess it was just nice not having to be manually adjusting my speed throughout the mountainous area. It would only jump to 5500 for maybe 5 seconds, so it wasn't too bad. Curious that the tac doesn't have a 'red zone' for RPM.
On a related note, it would be nice if there were a sort of 'cruise control' that was based off RPM as well. So, one could set the speed at 60, and the RPM to a max of 4500. Then, if RPM reaches 4500, the speed is automatically decreased.
As I'm driving with the CVRT, I can't help but wonder what other peoples' standard transmissions are doing. I see these little 4 cylinder Toyotas, going up the hills, and I'm thinking that car must be in 2nd gear at 6000RPM to make that climb. Don't people care when their standard transmissions are constantly shifting in/out of overdrive on such terrains?
#186 of 222 25,000 to 35,000 miles per yr. Is it worth it??
Jun 29, 2008 (11:53 am)
My wife and I are considering a new 08 FEH. Wife drives the mileage in the subject line annually. A majority of the mileage is highway. Do any of you good people out there drive a lot of highway miles?? If so, what kind of MPG are you getting??
I live in CA, the central valley. Hi temps in the 100's, lows in the 30's. The highway mileage is Hwy 99 through I5 into Los Angeles.
#187 of 222 Re: 25,000 to 35,000 miles per yr. Is it worth it?? [2manymiles]
Jun 29, 2008 (12:45 pm)
I drive about 50 miles/day round trip to/from work. It's about half city half highway (highway only about 55MPH though). In the winter I was getting 37MPG, and in summer closer to 33.
You drive 70-100 miles per day? I'd say you're a good candidate.
However, to get the most benefit-- you can't be a psycho driver.
Here is a good article to explain how to get great mileage:
How to get good mileage
#188 of 222 Re: 25,000 to 35,000 miles per yr. Is it worth it?? [2manymiles]
Jun 30, 2008 (11:28 am)
"My wife and I are considering a new 08 FEH. Wife drives the mileage in the subject line annually. A majority of the mileage is highway. Do any of you good people out there drive a lot of highway miles?? If so, what kind of MPG are you getting??
I live in CA, the central valley. Hi temps in the 100's, lows in the 30's. The highway mileage is Hwy 99 through I5 into Los Angeles. "
Ouch, you are going over the Grapevine!
If you NEED an SUV, the the FEH will probably get the best mileage, but I'm not sure about those elevation changes. It might be better (for similar MPG) to get a Honda CR-V, which is considerably cheaper. If you can keep the speed down to about 65, the FEH will probably yield 30 MPG, while the CR-V might yield 28 MPH.
The reason I hesitate is that the FEH cannot do too much to increase MPG on the road, and hills can really hit the MPG unless you are willing to slow on the uphill and go faster on the downhill. If you set the cruise control it will drag down the MPG.
If you can get by with a smaller car, then a HCH or Prius will yield very good mileage, probably around 42 - 45 MPG at those same speed (maybe more). But you might also consider a small car like the Honda Fit, which will yield 38 MPG or so over that route - at a CONSIDERABLY lower cost (around 10K lower).
#189 of 222 Short road trip
Aug 06, 2008 (4:25 pm)
2008 FEH, AWD. No cross bars on the roof rack, side steps installed.
LA to Solvang, CA. The trip involved a lot of hills at either end of the journey. On the way up to Solvang I registered 33.3 MPG on the freeway. Then we went uphill in a MAJOR WAY for about 20 miles and I ended up at 31. On the trip back to LA it was at 32 MPG when we hit the big hill at Camarillo CA (about 6% grade for maybe six miles). The FEH went down to 31.2! The engine was wound up to 4K for several minutes.
By the time I got back to LA, the mileage was back to 32. I have tooled around town for the rest of this tank and am just about ready to fill up, and the mileage meter is back up to 32.4.
My mileage meter is generally about .5 MPG too high, so subtract that from the above totals.
I was travelling at 65 MPH on the freeways, about 50 MPH on the secondary roads (but the big uphill going to Solvang was around 40 MPH due to the twisting road and posted limits).
#190 of 222 Re: 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid Mileage Not Good [exb]
Mar 03, 2009 (8:38 pm)
Thank goodness others are experiencing the same things. For those of us who aren't in the auto industry and who only came upon the internet about 10 - 15 years ago, we weren't aware about the loss of mileage in the winter. And since none of the documentation that comes with the car mentions it, I thought something had gone wrong with my car.
2008 FEH front wheel drive. started out at about 30 - 32 and am now at about 25 - 27mpg. I was really bummed out. I worked so hard to drive well and it never got better.
One thing I notice, however, is that I can't for the life of me get the car to run on electric for more than a few hundred yards. This makes the last mile of driving impossible to stay elec to maintain max performance. It's also hard to keep on battery going faster than 20 MPH or so. I have worked really hard at this and still come up empty. Any thoughts? I do teh tap tap down shift to kick into elec. I do the slow accel and L gear braking. Yet no such luck. Can't seem to beat 32 average, even in best of circumstances. That's with no radio or AC either. And I drive 60 now.
#191 of 222 Re: 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid Mileage Not Good [cjcarlberg]
Mar 04, 2009 (6:05 am)
It Tucson it doesn't get that cold, but I noticed a drop in mileage as well. During the winter months when the temperatures were in the upper 30s, I was getting about 30-32MPG. The best mileage I get is in the spring and fall-- about 36MPG. In summer it's about 33MPG, with the AC running a lot.
It REALLY makes a difference how you drive, too. Most people are very very very very bad at math, and insist on flooring it when the light turns green, and accelerating right up to the red light and slam the breaks. It's amazing. If I had to guess, I'd say about 8/10 people drive this way. This is a good article which seems to hold true for me:
====> Drive Smart
#192 of 222 Re: 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid Mileage Not Good [cjcarlberg]
Mar 09, 2009 (1:49 pm)
Don't give up on it. Believe me when I say that I could have written word for word what you said about not being able to get the electric to run more than a few hundred yards or to keep the electric running over 20MPH.
4 years later I don't even think about it and easily run on electric to 30MPH plus, and run on home that last mile on electric. It jst sort of grows on you, one day there is that aha moment and it works.
Model: 2006 (received delivery April 2005), Millage 69K+, Still Smiling every time I go to the pump.