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#175 of 201 Re: 2008 FEH AWD MILEAGE [rnarg] by stevedebi May 02, 2008 (12:44 pm)
Replying to: rnarg (May 01, 2008 7:26 pm) "I have quit spending so much time and attention driving my FEH AWD like a turtle for better gas mileage. "   I don't do it for the MPG - it is fun, and part of the challenge is NOT to impede traffic. I don't always accelerate like a turtle. At this point I'm still experimenting with the proper way to increase MPG. I don't use any of the "extreme" tricks listed on "hypermiler' sites. So far it appears to me that the FEH has to be driven carefully, and that the best performance depends upon the SOC (state of charge) of the battery. I am finding that the charge level of the battery when accelerating calls for differing approaches. I can't be more specific because I'm still gathering experience and data.   I have 750 miles on the vehicle, and so far I'm right at 30 MPG, about 90% city. I have a 2008 FEH AWD. I expect to do a bit better once the engine breaks in.   29 MPG is respectable, I'm assuming you are driving an AWD?
#176 of 201 steady mileage by joseph85750 May 09, 2008 (12:26 pm)
I got my vehicle July of 2007. I get 35-37 MPG. This is driving mostly to/from work every day, about 25 miles each way. The trip is mostly city, with a small stretch where I can go about 50 mph. I was surprised how little difference there was during the summer when I ran AC a lot, compared to the winter where it never runs. In the summer I got closer to 35 MPG.
#177 of 201 Florida Driving - Worth it? by gjandtjsmom May 23, 2008 (2:52 pm)
I received this email from a local dealer:   Thank you for your interest in the Hybrid Escape. Unfortunately, they are in very, very short supply. There are only 6 in the state of Florida . We are out of them and don't for see any coming in due to the fact that Ford is shipping 95% of them to the West coast of the U.S. Because the air conditioning in them requires the gas part of the engine to be running for it to work, you don't get the benefit of the Hybrid engine because we have to run A/C here in Florida all the time, where is California and Washington, you don't.  Ford feels that the best use of the vehicle will be in those climates and not the southeast so that is why there are none available. Dealers that do have one left from earlier in the year are asking over the sticker for them! You would be better off with just the regular 4 cylinder model if you are concerned about fuel economy. --   Would love to hear from FL drivers with an Escape Hybrid. Thanks! Replies to this message: joseph85750 (May 23, 2008 4:25 pm) ekiehn (May 27, 2008 8:55 am) baysailor (Jun 10, 2008 5:44 pm)
#178 of 201 Re: Florida Driving - Worth it? [gjandtjsmom] by joseph85750 May 23, 2008 (4:25 pm)
Replying to: gjandtjsmom (May 23, 2008 2:52 pm) Interesting. I live in Tucson, AZ, and run the AC a LOT. I got my FEH last July and ran the AC all the way through October. I got about 35 MPG during that time. During this winter season, I've been getting about 37MPG. I was amazed that there wasn't too much of a difference, but I think it has something to do with the heated air vs. the cooler air as well. Either way, it does great in the summer with AC. So, unless you're a total psycho driver who has to floor it when the light turns green and slam on the brakes at the last minute when the light is red, you'll see a benefit from the hybrid in the summer too. I wonder how those Florida statistics were calculated. Obviously not from reality.
#179 of 201 Re: Florida Driving - Worth it? [gjandtjsmom] by ekiehn May 27, 2008 (8:55 am)
Replying to: gjandtjsmom (May 23, 2008 2:52 pm) Well I've been driving mine since 2005. In fact I went to a Ford Road Show in Orlando to test drive one in 2004, went back to Stuart, FL (2 hours South on the East Coast) and put in an order for one. They ran out of 2005 models and I got a 2006 in May of 2005 (second one in town, a Former Ford Exec living here got one of the last 2005 models).   Is it worth it in Summer, YES. I still get decent MPG and don't have to trade off to a 4 cylinder. So I don't get the 36 MPG high's that I sometimes hit in Winter and end up hovering more around 32. I still haul a lot of stuff and with over 50,000 miles on the vehicle I love it.   Here's the scoop so you can decide. If you drive mostly to and from work during the morning,evening, you'll be fine- expect good milage if the drive is 15 minutes or longer (engine has to warm up for best efficiency). If you go out driving during the heat day, say out to lunch or off on to job sites (which is what I often do) it will depend upon the speed at which you are driving. With the air set to the economy mode, the gas engine will usually shut down below 30, like heavy traffic or a stop light. At this point if you have not been driving for a while to cool down the interior, it can get warm fairly fast. Since most stop lights are around 2 to 4 minutes in duration, I usually give it a couple minutes, if it gets two warm a quick flick of a switch and the gas engine starts and I have air conditioning. Remember when you start to drive almost everytime the gas engine will start so you get air anyway. So it's no big deal with the heat, it's manegable and I still remember the days living in Florida when my car didn't have A/C. MPG isn't killed unless you are at stop lights all the time and are running the Gas engine at the same time.   Basically right now most hybrids are in short supply and the dealers know it. Maybe Ford is shipping more to California and the NorthWest as the climate there is optimum for the vehicle, but it by no means fails in the hot humid SouthEast. Do the math, if you hang onto your vehicles for long enough and you know gas prices will always go up, the premium may get paid off sooner than you think (mine did).
#180 of 201 How to drive any vehicle and significantly improve mileage, general wear. by joseph85750 Jun 08, 2008 (12:14 pm)
Short simple article. Too bad most people can't figure this out:   http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/autos_content_landing_pages/579/
#181 of 201 Re: Florida Driving - Worth it? [gjandtjsmom] by baysailor Jun 10, 2008 (5:44 pm)
Replying to: gjandtjsmom (May 23, 2008 2:52 pm) The dealer is making excuses, and poor ones at that. Yes, the models are in short supply, and you may have to dig around for either an Escape or a Mariner, but I highly doubt that Ford's distribution is based on such a hair-brained consideration. As you will see with other posts on this site, the impact of A/C while driving is very small. Driver performance has a much bigger impact, which is why I can get 35 mpg regularly, and my wife only gets 31 on the same car, covering the same route. I shut up after "trying to help" got me "the look."   My bet is the dealer is at the bottom of the sales performance list, and he's not getting any, or he can't sell the conventional Escapes he'll need to take for every hybrid he gets.   Keep looking, they're out there.
#182 of 201 Re: Just got 2008- not bad milage [stevedebi] by jimt2 Jun 28, 2008 (4:56 am)
Replying to: stevedebi (Apr 23, 2008 10:35 am) I have an AWD. Have gotten between 25 and 30 MPG depending upon traffic. Less traffic- lower milage.... Replies to this message: joseph85750 (Jun 28, 2008 6:27 am) baysailor (Jun 28, 2008 10:29 am)
#183 of 201 Re: Just got 2008- not bad milage [jimt2] by joseph85750 Jun 28, 2008 (6:27 am)
Replying to: jimt2 (Jun 28, 2008 4:56 am) We took a trip 2 weeks ago from Tucson, AZ to Omaha, NE. After reaching Omaha, the MPG reading was around 33. After returning to Tucson, it was 31.1. This would indicate the return mileage was around 30MPG. I'm not sure why it was lower on the return trip. It might have been due to a different return path, different gas octane, or the elevation increase on the return trip. Total miles driven was 3292. In northern New Mexico and southern Colorado, there were times when we were driving up hill, 70MPH, with the AC running. The RPM of the engine would sometimes reach 5500. According to Ford, this is within normal operating range. Overall, I thought it performed quite well on the trip! Replies to this message: baysailor (Jun 28, 2008 10:29 am)
#184 of 201 Re: Just got 2008- not bad milage [joseph85750] by baysailor Jun 28, 2008 (10:29 am)
Replying to: joseph85750 (Jun 28, 2008 6:27 am) There are too many variables to pin down a single reason, although elevation would be a big part of it, since the last time I checked Tucson is much more mountainous than Omaha. The engine revving to 5500 RPM is certainly in the operating range but should be an indication that the truck is running really hard. You may want to try different driving styles in a situation like that and just back off the power to ~3000 RPM and let your speed drop off, you'll save a bunch of fuel that way. In hilly sections I disconnect the speed control and drive manually, letting the speed drop off on the hills and ensuring that you get a full head of steam up going down the other side. You don't get to you destination noticably slower, and you allow the truck to deliver it's potential 33+ MPG on the road.   Cheers,

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