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Re: very poor gas mileage [akearns] by mecheng1
Jan 29, 2008 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: akearns (Jan 28, 2008 6:39 pm)

I lose 1 - 2 mpg when I have an open rack on top....I imagine it would be twice that with a full box on top. (Note: I lose the same amount of mpg on my non-hybrid with these items on top)
 
A 12 - 13 gallon fill is normal if the gauge reads near or on E. The tank will take 15 (or a little more) if it is fully drained, way past E.
 
Reset the mpg calculator often....and see if you can tell what part of your driving is really killing your FE. Have you adjusted your driving to the hybrid system yet?(more light braking, shifting to "L" to get into EV, etc.,etc.) Good Luck.
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Re: very poor gas mileage [mecheng1] by maksime
Jan 29, 2008 (6:05 pm)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Jan 29, 2008 7:12 am)

Speaking of driving in L.
 
The owner's manual indicates that driving in L provides max regen braking. Is there a risk of wearing prematurely the cvt/regen braking system by driving constantly in L and/or at high speed?
 
To be safe, for slower trips, I'm in L and Hwy, I use D.
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Re: very poor gas mileage [maksime] by mecheng1
Jan 30, 2008 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: maksime (Jan 29, 2008 6:05 pm)

"L" is just a different set of PCM software...it doesn't actually shift anything mechanically, so the popular opinion is that driving in D or L has no detrimental affect on the health of the vehicle.....it just may help with Fuel Economy (FE).
 
Google "low gear advantage" and "fake shift" with the words escape hybrid and you will some some lengthy dicussions on the subject of driving the FEH for optimum FE.
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Re: 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid Mileage Not Good [mecheng1] by exb
Feb 03, 2008 (8:48 pm)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Jan 28, 2008 10:10 am)

Without question my previous car (a 2002 Ford Focus) got poorer mileage in the winter. I tracked the mileage on the Focus the way I track the mileage on the Escape. My hope was that hybrid power would somehow improve winter mileage, too. This week I got a pleasant surprise. When the windows started to fog up, instead of running the defroster, l set the temperature control to 75 degrees on the economy setting and cranked up the fan a few notches. I was not uncomfortable and the windows stayed clear. The engine started using the HV battery sooner than it had all winter. So far I have driven 220 miles on this tank and the fuel needle is straightup at half full (or half empty depending on your outlook). The mpg reading on the panel indicates between 30 and 31. I'll know for sure at the next fill up when I make my own calculation. Here's hoping!
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Re: 2008 FEH Mileage Not Good - winter milage goes down on all[mecheng1] by baysailor
Feb 08, 2008 (10:31 pm)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Jan 28, 2008 10:10 am)

All cars, both hybrid and non-hybrid, get worse milage in cold (below freezing weather. The use of ethanol & other smog-cutting additive, the longer time to get to operating temperature, and the general cruddier conditions combine to reduce your milage. My ride, a BMW, drops 10-15% in milage during the winter. My F-150 truck is 15-20%. At least it uses regular unleaded.
 
 So if you add the inefficiencies of cold batteries and electric motors, the need to keep the batteries, the Catconverter and the human warm, its no suprise you take another 10-15% hit in milage with the Hybrid.
 
The FEH still gets better gas mileage, even cold, than the non-hybrid version of the same vehicle.
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Cold weather mileage - dropped like a stone by tomgen
Feb 11, 2008 (8:41 am)
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Hi,
 
I have had an 08 for about 8 months. I bought it in the spring, so I got the benefit of high mileage in the warm weather. I calculated between 31 & 32 mpg until the temp dropped. I live in the Chicago area and this winter has some bad cold snaps. My mileage started dropping when the temp went below 40. When the temp was hovering around 0, the mileage was down to about 25 mpg! While 25 mpg is good for an Escape being driven in the city, it is still quite a drop.
 
The temp is back around 0, so the RPMs stay in the 2500 range for the 1st 30-45 min the engine is on. If the engine shuts off at a stop, it is only for about 30 secs and that is after everything has warmed up. The battery really suffers in this weather and appears to need quite a bit of changing after sitting in the cold all night. I keep my vehicle in the garage, so I can't imagine what the battery performance would be if the vehicle spent the night outdoors! The good news is that as the temp goes up, so does the battery performance. I expect my mileage to go back up when spring arrives.
 
Regards,
 
Tom
 
P.S. I drive about 90% in the city/burbs.
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Re: Cold weather mileage - dropped like a stone [tomgen] by mackris
Feb 11, 2008 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: tomgen (Feb 11, 2008 8:41 am)

Thanks Tom,
 
This is very good to hear as I bought our 08 FEH at the end of January and have pretty much been in the 22 - 26 MPG range. I've been wondering weather I bought a lemon or not, but have been told to just wait till the weather warms up. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
 
Thanks, John
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Re: Cold weather mileage - dropped like a stone [mackris] by ekiehn
Feb 12, 2008 (2:53 pm)
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Replying to: mackris (Feb 11, 2008 8:54 am)

Wow, been away to long, lots of great conversation going especially on the Cold Weather front.
 
Good to see less talk about lemons when the mileage drops. When you put it in perspective though, 22-26 MPG in the winter for an Escape is still good mileage. Spring will come and mileage will go up (just when gas prices go up as well) and with every price increase you'll be smiling at the pump.
 
BTW don't forget to factor in the 10,000 mile oil changes/maintenance instead of every 3 to 5. This just piles on your overall savings.
 
Eric
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10 kmi oil change intervals - how do folks feel about this? by baysailor
Feb 24, 2008 (10:34 am)
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This is one area that I'm still leary about, regardless of the vehicle. Engine oil is an expendable fluid that directly impacts how long the engine will running without a rebuild. Considering all the gunk and dirt and grit contaminates that oil picks up, and the fact that when the filter gets packed up with this stuff, a blowby valve opens to keep the oil flowing, regardless of how polluted it is, makes me really skeptical of the "benefit" for 10 kmi oil benefit. I really like the truck, and the way it's put together, and I want to keep it for at least 200 kmi, as I typically do. I wouldn't put it past an unscrupulous finance group at FMC to "stretch out" the oil change intervals in order to save a couple of bucks on factory-financed service, with the long term impact of reduced engine life, especially since I don't believe the standard oil used is a full synthetic. In my mind, regular oil changes are cheap insurance for longer engine life. Same thing with engine coolant, but to a lesser degree.
 
Does anyone closer to the automotive community have thoughts on this? Also does anyone know if there is any particular sensor that monitors the down-stream oil pressure from the filter, or the pressure drop thru the filter on the MMH? Would be reassuring to know. Otherwise, I'll probably stick with my own rule of oil changes every 5 kmi, regardless.
 
Cheers,
Rich

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