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Re: 5 Miles to work [mecheng1] by maksime
Jan 27, 2008 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Jan 23, 2008 7:03 am)

Good Response.
 
If you see a car as an investment, you will be one disappointed investor...For some reason, as soon as I said I got a FEH, the first comments were on ROI. And then I get the overstated fuel consumption on non hybrid vehicles. The best one: I get 44 mpg with my Chevy Cobalt
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Re: 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid Mileage Not Good [jstelter] by exb
Jan 27, 2008 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: jstelter (Jan 12, 2008 6:30 pm)

I live in the Chicago area and have had my 2008 FWD Escape Hybrid since June of 2007. The summer was great. On every tank, the mileage was between 32 and 34 mpg. When winter arrived, the honeymoon was over. Currently the mileage is 20-25 mpg - definitely disappointing. In 8 months, I've driven it 8,000 miles with many short trips. I still enjoy the vehicle but I hope the mileage improves.
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Re: 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid Mileage Not Good [exb] by mecheng1
Jan 28, 2008 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: exb (Jan 27, 2008 8:46 pm)

Compare the drop in FE in your FEH with the drop in FE (mpg) in your previous vehicle in the winter......huh?......what's that?.......you don't remember/never measured what kind of drop you got in the winter in your previous car?
 
Trust me, it was very close in percentage to that you are seeing in the FEH. And you are not alone, many many sob stories about how "lousy" the FEH is now that we have the traditional winter weather everywhere. But in reality....non-hybrid vehicles that get 17 to 20 mpg in the summer are now getting 13 - 16 because it is cold. That 25% drop would be comparable to the FEH getting 30 mpg in the summer and now getting 21 -24 mpg in the winter. To preserve the health of the HVBattery, allow for safe braking, and keep the emissions as low as possible.....the computer brain in the FEH runs the ICE for longer periods and allows less regenerative brakin in cold weather.
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very poor gas mileage by akearns
Jan 28, 2008 (6:39 pm)
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We recently purchased a 2005 escape hybrid with 17,000 miles on it. The mpg has been horrible, seemingly barely getting 20 mpgs out of it. the avg read about 27 when we got it. now its already down close to 23. we do have a thule box on top, but would that affect it sooo much? also, we can barely get 12 gallons of gas into an empty tank, or so the computer is telling us, yet itis supposed to have 15 gallon tank. help!!!
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Re: very poor gas mileage [akearns] by mecheng1
Jan 29, 2008 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: akearns (Jan 28, 2008 6:39 pm)

I lose 1 - 2 mpg when I have an open rack on top....I imagine it would be twice that with a full box on top. (Note: I lose the same amount of mpg on my non-hybrid with these items on top)
 
A 12 - 13 gallon fill is normal if the gauge reads near or on E. The tank will take 15 (or a little more) if it is fully drained, way past E.
 
Reset the mpg calculator often....and see if you can tell what part of your driving is really killing your FE. Have you adjusted your driving to the hybrid system yet?(more light braking, shifting to "L" to get into EV, etc.,etc.) Good Luck.
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Re: very poor gas mileage [mecheng1] by maksime
Jan 29, 2008 (6:05 pm)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Jan 29, 2008 7:12 am)

Speaking of driving in L.
 
The owner's manual indicates that driving in L provides max regen braking. Is there a risk of wearing prematurely the cvt/regen braking system by driving constantly in L and/or at high speed?
 
To be safe, for slower trips, I'm in L and Hwy, I use D.
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Re: very poor gas mileage [maksime] by mecheng1
Jan 30, 2008 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: maksime (Jan 29, 2008 6:05 pm)

"L" is just a different set of PCM software...it doesn't actually shift anything mechanically, so the popular opinion is that driving in D or L has no detrimental affect on the health of the vehicle.....it just may help with Fuel Economy (FE).
 
Google "low gear advantage" and "fake shift" with the words escape hybrid and you will some some lengthy dicussions on the subject of driving the FEH for optimum FE.
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Re: 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid Mileage Not Good [mecheng1] by exb
Feb 03, 2008 (8:48 pm)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Jan 28, 2008 10:10 am)

Without question my previous car (a 2002 Ford Focus) got poorer mileage in the winter. I tracked the mileage on the Focus the way I track the mileage on the Escape. My hope was that hybrid power would somehow improve winter mileage, too. This week I got a pleasant surprise. When the windows started to fog up, instead of running the defroster, l set the temperature control to 75 degrees on the economy setting and cranked up the fan a few notches. I was not uncomfortable and the windows stayed clear. The engine started using the HV battery sooner than it had all winter. So far I have driven 220 miles on this tank and the fuel needle is straightup at half full (or half empty depending on your outlook). The mpg reading on the panel indicates between 30 and 31. I'll know for sure at the next fill up when I make my own calculation. Here's hoping!
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Re: 2008 FEH Mileage Not Good - winter milage goes down on all[mecheng1] by baysailor
Feb 08, 2008 (10:31 pm)
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Replying to: mecheng1 (Jan 28, 2008 10:10 am)

All cars, both hybrid and non-hybrid, get worse milage in cold (below freezing weather. The use of ethanol & other smog-cutting additive, the longer time to get to operating temperature, and the general cruddier conditions combine to reduce your milage. My ride, a BMW, drops 10-15% in milage during the winter. My F-150 truck is 15-20%. At least it uses regular unleaded.
 
 So if you add the inefficiencies of cold batteries and electric motors, the need to keep the batteries, the Catconverter and the human warm, its no suprise you take another 10-15% hit in milage with the Hybrid.
 
The FEH still gets better gas mileage, even cold, than the non-hybrid version of the same vehicle.

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