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#111 of 201 Re: MPG in Southern Climate [paparusty] by ekiehn Oct 24, 2007 (8:43 am)
Replying to: paparusty (Oct 22, 2007 5:52 pm) I have the '06 hybrid as well and live in SOFLA - South Florida for the uninitiated in the heat of the summer I usually end up with the AC on MAX and which does affect fuel mileage, but it depends on where I'm driving to. If I start off on a 98 degree day and am driving stop and go traffic it's on, but if I drive more distance and less stop and go I switch to normal recerc AC. Usually even on a hot day after about 15 minutes the interior is cooled enough that even if you get stopped at a light and the engine turns off, the cool air still flows long enough so that when you start off again, all is cool (and this is from someone who likes it cool).   Mileage goes down in summer usually no lower than 27mpg, but now that fall is coming and I'm only battling temps in the lower to mid 80's I almost always have it set to standard AC so the ICE turns off at lights etc. Millage is now back up to 32+ MPG.   You learn a little different way of driving, but if my 15 year old can get a kick out of trying to get the best mileage out of a car and eagerly tries to top is Dad, then anyone can love hybrid technology.
#112 of 201 Re: MPG in Southern Climate [paparusty] by mecheng1 Oct 24, 2007 (11:02 am)
Replying to: paparusty (Oct 22, 2007 5:52 pm) Your characterization of the Hybrid with the A/C on makes it sound like some sort of "short coming" of the vehicle. True, the current (3rd gen) Prius does include an electric A/C compressor....so you can have cold A/C and EV at the same time. However, this drains energy faster from the HVbattery which may require the ICE to come on to charge the HV battery sooner.   Even conventionally powered Escapes will show reduced FE with the A/C running. So, if the FEH FE is reduced due to using A/C....so is the FE of any other vehicle it is being compared to. Replies to this message: stevedebi (Oct 25, 2007 12:12 pm) mecheng1 (Oct 26, 2007 6:30 am)
#113 of 201 Re: MPG in Southern Climate [mecheng1] by stevedebi Oct 25, 2007 (12:12 pm)
Replying to: mecheng1 (Oct 24, 2007 11:02 am) "True, the current (3rd gen) Prius does include an electric A/C compressor....so you can have cold A/C and EV at the same time. "   Not to be picky, but where did you get three generations? Gen 1 was 2000-2003, Gen 2 was 2004 - present. There was a Japanese version in 1997, IIRC, but it was identical to the Gen 1. Replies to this message: mecheng1 (Oct 26, 2007 6:30 am)
#114 of 201 Re: MPG in Southern Climate [stevedebi] by mecheng1 Oct 26, 2007 (6:30 am)
Replying to: stevedebi (Oct 25, 2007 12:12 pm) I've seen the Japanese(domestic) only version referred to as a separate generation. The drive train probably did not see many changes but perhaps preparing it to be sold in the US included enough other changes to warrant designation as its own generation. [My info is second-hand]
#115 of 201 Ivor by ifreeman Nov 07, 2007 (9:54 am)
We have been wanting to buy an escape hybrid but would like to test drive before committing. None of the Ford dealers around here have a demo car or even a used car. What goes? How can Ford expect to sell cars when there are no Demos? Replies to this message: mecheng1 (Nov 07, 2007 10:39 am)
#116 of 201 Re: Ivor [ifreeman] by mecheng1 Nov 07, 2007 (10:39 am)
Replying to: ifreeman (Nov 07, 2007 9:54 am) In the late winter and early Spring of this year when Hybrid sales had been slow...it looks like Ford decided to allocate the hybrids to dealers that were actually selling Hybrids on a regular basis. This left 90% (approx) of the dealers in the country without any automatic allocations - they had to order them specifically or place an order for a customer. So if a rural dealer had only seen one or two hybrids and had trouble selling them....he wasn't about to order a bunch for the show room. Then, in the late Spring as Gas prices went up and orders starting to arrive in large volume....Ford had a critical component supply problem and had trouble getting them off the line. Many folks waited for 4 months or more and have just received their vehicles in Sept and Oct.   Just today, I counted over 10 hybrids at my dealer on the front lot for sale.
#117 of 201 To Mecheng1 by ifreeman Nov 07, 2007 (11:36 am)
So where do I have to go to find one? I am in rural NE. Thanks Replies to this message: mecheng1 (Nov 07, 2007 12:19 pm) softpedal (Nov 07, 2007 9:56 pm)
#118 of 201 Re: To Mecheng1 [ifreeman] by mecheng1 Nov 07, 2007 (12:19 pm)
Replying to: ifreeman (Nov 07, 2007 11:36 am) I would come armed with dealer names and/or valid zip codes of the location of dealers near you. Then use the following Ford website:   http://www86.forddirect.fordvehicles.com/IncomingPage.jsp?intcmp=fv%3A+showroom%- 3A+search+inventory&sModel=2008Escape+Hybrid&partner=&target=inventory&sBrand=Fo- rd&sZip=   ........to search dealer inventory. I would say this tool is not very accruate day-to-day....but you should get a lot of 0 (zero) hits on small dealerships. Look for larger, urban dealers that will have at least 3 or more on inventory....then determine if they are close enough for you to visit. If you have never been in any type of Escape if would be valuable to try and drive a non-hybrid version to get 80% of the FEH experience.   The Hybrid is designed to drive in an identical manner as the non-hybrid....but once you understand how it works ...you will want to employ new driving techniques that allow you to get the EPA estimates of MPG (or better!)   Good Luck. Replies to this message: softpedal (Nov 07, 2007 9:56 pm)
#119 of 201 Re: To Mecheng1 [mecheng1] by softpedal Nov 07, 2007 (9:56 pm)
Replying to: mecheng1 (Nov 07, 2007 12:19 pm) Good luck in your search, Ivor. I bought mine, 2006 4WD Hybrid, in the summer of 2005, and waited until mid September to get delivery. But I factory ordered exactly what I wanted (though I wish I had a back-up camera!), and at the time only one model was available on the lot for test drive. I didn't like that model much, it's weird color or handling, but mine came out perfect, in medium black, so it was worth the wait. I knew what I wanted!   Get to test drive one, just to get a feel for it, but it really is just like a regular gas engine, except when in electric mode, then totally silent. Pick up is great, often surprised that when light turns green, everybody else is left behind, except for some sports cars! All else works just as advertised. I now have been a proud Hybrid owner for two years, and can't find fault. Really!   On some city driving (4WD) I actually get 37 mpg, which is surprising. But in regular traffic, on highway I get about 30+, and if just doing short hops (engine warms up and recharges all those batteries) I'll only average 27 mpg. You do learn after a while how to 'milk it' to get better mileage, if that is your goal. With today's gas prices, it sure is mine. It is an SUV, so don't expect very high mileage, but that's good enough for me. And it really is a joy of a car to drive, so quiet and smooth, seamless really. I've also taken it into some pretty rough off-road desert driving, and just great. My GPS could be better, if I must gripe about something. Overall, try it, you'll like it. I have.
#120 of 201 Hybrids in NE. by mschmal Nov 10, 2007 (9:21 am)
We have a material hold on Hybrids right now. Means we can't order any for stock or retail. For 2008 the Hybrid was not allocated seperately from the gas Escape as in previous model years.   Mark.

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