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Hybrids are the gold pill some people think by mschmal
Jan 04, 2007 (11:37 am)
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You may be getting 20mpg in mixed driving but I assure, that is at least as good if not much better than what a v6 Escape would get in mixed driving.
 
Also, the snow tires are scrubbing off some MPG due to greater friction.
 
Mark.
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Re: Hybrids are the gold pill some people think [mschmal] by gmoreau
Jan 26, 2007 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: mschmal (Jan 04, 2007 11:37 am)

I own a 2006 FEH AWD and live in Vermont. My experience:
 
The Good: 28 - 31 mpg in the city or on the highway; pretty good in decent weather. Handling in bad weather is decent.
 
The Bad: This morning, after dropping my daughter off at school, I looked at the mileage and it posted 19.1 mpg. In the 1.3 mile drive from the school, it dropped down to 18.9 and 18.8 mpg. The "Miles to Empty" gauge dropped from 184 miles to empty to 182 miles to empty in less than a minute of driving! The typically sluggish performance of the truck seems significantly exacerbated by the cold (and admittedly it's really really cold here--although the truck is garaged). Also, I have stock tires--not snows, and recently inflated them. I read that in cold weather, mpg would drop some, but 40%?? That's really bad--my former Audi A6 turbo got better mileage than this. Because of the squeaks that should never occur on a new vehicle (see my and other people's posts about this), the klugey computer that needs to be reset often and doesn't even provide an external temp, and the crummy NAV system, I'm less than satisfied. Ford needs to own known problems (like the squeaking), and has a lot more work to do regarding how to engineer a hybrid in cold weather conditions (should we all just move to Florida?), and I'm seriously considering replacing this with a Toyota Highlander Hybrid, but I don't know how that handles the cold...
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Re: Hybrids are the gold pill some people think [gmoreau] by ekiehn
Jan 26, 2007 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: gmoreau (Jan 26, 2007 6:39 am)

Wow maybe I'm the luckiest EH owner out there, but I ave had no problem with my 2006 model. Granted I am in Florida but I have a place way up in the north GA mountains and have had no issues there either. Mileage avg around 32MPG both locations (sometimes I do a little better in the mountains) - Not sluggish at all as I zip in and out of traffic (anyone who has driven in FL will know what I mean) - Squeaks are non existent except those that I normally associate with an SUV of any make (Can't fairly compare an Audi to a truck - though I've heard the Lexus SUV is quite) - NAV system, yes it needs to be modernized but it found a dirt road out in the middle of the GA mountains for me without a hitch and has been able to match direction for direction comparison maps that I have gotten from Yahoo and google maps.
 
Ya the thing that does bug me is that I don't have an external temperature reading, and a few more storage compartments (overhead space is wasted)would be great and just one more gallon of gas in the tank would extend my range considerably.
 
One thing you have to realize is that on extremely short trips (a mile or less) you really kill the mileage. This is true in most vehicles until they warm up. It may be aggravated a little in a hybrid because the engine runs at a higher RPM to charge the batteries even while stopped. Once you hit the 3 to 4 mile mark it all seems to balance out. The cold obviously has a big effect as both batteries and engines are least efficient when they are cold.
 
Overall I have been extremely happy with my EH and it has saved me a tone of money in fuel bills compared to the VAN that I was using. Now if they would only put in a diesel then we could be talking real mileage
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Ext Temp will come for 08. by mschmal
Jan 26, 2007 (11:52 am)
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The Ext Temp will be available on 08s with auto climate control.
 
Mark.
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Re: How are you measuring your MPG. [mschmal] by 3screwsloose
Jan 27, 2007 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: mschmal (Dec 20, 2006 11:16 am)

Damn right the cold affects the hybrid! We don't need the AC then, unless it rains and cannot see thru the foggy windows. Still getting over 30MPG - figured out longhand - not the trip computer method. 25mi commute 1 way, rush hour traffic, highway/city roads. Ethanol.
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Re: Hybrids are the gold pill some people think [mschmal] by 3screwsloose
Jan 27, 2007 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: mschmal (Jan 04, 2007 11:37 am)

I realize you need snow tires to navigate in the Great White North. Down here in Texas, we rarely have anything to deal with that you must be used to - until recently. My '06 Mariner Hybrid came with Continental Contitrac ECO Plus tires. The Plus denotes a higher tire air pressure - 5psi. Specific to the Hybrid, it is not fitted on "normal" Mariners. We had quite a time getting a replacement tire after my wife destroyed one by cutting a 2" hole in the center tread - concrete planter shards. They are available only thru the dealer ( Ford ), with the VIN required to order and have drop shipped from the factory - Continental that is. What a hassle. However, the tire was priced less than the non ECO plus at local tire shops. Fortunately we have a spare car to drive while we wait for a replacement tire to arrive from Carolina.
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Cold Weather MPG by devomi
Jan 30, 2007 (8:45 am)
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I have a FWD '07 I bought in August. I was getting 36MPG until it started getting cold (Michigan). Now with temps in the 20's I am getting in the 28MPG Range. I expect to get back to 36MPG once the weather breaks.
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I Loved my Escape!! by malibusky
Jan 30, 2007 (2:41 pm)
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I owned it for one month...then I was carjacked!!
 
Don't think the guy even knew what he was taking!!
 
Waiting for my insurance $$ to purchase a new one...was wondering if I should just wait for the 2008...when are they coming out?
#48 of 125
2008 Escape Hybrid by mschmal
Jan 31, 2007 (4:44 am)
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They are in production NOW will begin to ship in February!
 
Mark.
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Re: 2008 Escape Hybrid [mschmal] by malibusky
Jan 31, 2007 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: mschmal (Jan 31, 2007 4:44 am)

That is great, I had heard chatter about it in general but I thought I would need to wait longer..what happened to Sept. releases of new cars? I will contact our dealer, just wondering...are they back ordered?
Well, I guess bad things sometimes create good things..I get a 2008!!

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