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#2 of 7 Re: Ford Hybrid Security Issues [sdctcher] by randykato Jun 20, 2005 (7:40 pm)
Replying to: sdctcher (Jun 20, 2005 6:12 am) I was also told by my salesperson that the 2005 FEH I was buying was equipped with the PATS system. He explained how it works, that only the original/programmed keys would start the vehicle, and that if I wanted extra copies of keys, they would have to make/program them and they were quite expensive.   My owner's manual explains the PATS system as well.   However, there is not a working PATS system in my FEH. I feel I was deceived, and that the product I purchased was misrepresented. I paid for a vehicle with this system, and my owner's manual even details the system that is supposed to be installed and working.   I have heard that the 2006 models have a working PATS system. I think Ford should rectify the problem for the affected 2005 owners... much better than facing a class action lawsuit.
#3 of 7 Re: Ford Hybrid Security Issues by davek1117 Jun 21, 2005 (6:36 pm)
Replying to: sdctcher (Jun 20, 2005 6:12 am) I also verified that the same problem exists on my '05 Escape Hybrid. Instead of the $100 key from a dealer, I only need the ordinary key from Home Depot to unlock the car and drive it away. So, why does the Ford web site still (6/21/2005) advertise the SecuriLock key with chip as standard equipment? Come on Ford, if you can build the car in the first place, you can fix an interference problem as well.
#4 of 7 Re: Ford Hybrid Security Issues [sdctcher] by stevewa Jun 21, 2005 (10:21 pm)
Replying to: sdctcher (Jun 20, 2005 6:12 am) Indeed where the 1st Printing of the owners manual mentions the PATS system the 2nd Printing has that text mysteriously missing.   If Ford was able to get the system working for 2006 (and possibly some 2005) vehicles I don't think it unreasonable to request that they make whatever retrofit is needed to bring our vehicles up to snuff.
#5 of 7 Dealers may be the best approach by stevewa Jul 08, 2005 (11:16 pm)
It appears local dealers are willing to investigate why the PATS system isn't working in 2005 Escapes...whether that will end quickly is anyone's guess, but people who are taking their vehicles in and asking "why does the hardware store key start the engine" are getting surprised reactions from the dealers.
#6 of 7 Re: Ford Hybrid Security Issues [sdctcher] by jbvance Jul 25, 2005 (10:51 am)
Replying to: sdctcher (Jun 20, 2005 6:12 am) I have had the same PATS / Securilock issue with regards to my 2000 Ford Explorer.   I have had the PATS system disable my keys for the second time in the life of the car this weekend.   I have asked Ford for guidance on how long to expect a "key to last"; however, I received no direction for that.
#7 of 7 Re: Ford Hybrid Security Issues [sdctcher] by walta Apr 21, 2008 (3:45 am)
Replying to: sdctcher (Jun 20, 2005 6:12 am) "The downside for the 05 is that any key ($1.49 from a hardware store) can get you into the FEH and start it and drive away. "   Well, come on. That is a bit of an exaggeration, no?   One just can't take any key, and use it to start your FEH. It has to be cut to match your lock cylinder, and once cut, it changes from an "any key" to a unique key.

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