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Sedans Hyundai Sonata Hyundai Sonata vs. Honda Accord vs. Toyota Camry vs. Ford Fusion 
2824 messages, Last post on Feb 06, 2006 at 6:12 PM
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Replying to: 03accordman (Feb 06, 2006 4:12 pm) |
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Feb 06, 2006 4:24 pm) I would rank them as follows: Honda & Toyota Ford & Hyundai Then, there's also Kia... The American car companies are now terminal and on life support. The Japanese had better watch out - the Koreans are about to eat THEIR lunch. The Koreans had better not get too smug - China is on their tail..... |
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Replying to: 03accordman (Feb 06, 2006 4:12 pm) |
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Replying to: stockmanjoe (Feb 06, 2006 4:27 pm)
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Replying to: grbeck (Feb 06, 2006 3:15 pm) Really? I just checked KBB.com and came up with $2,525 (a little more than what Carmax offered) trade in and $5,525 for retail. NADA came in a few hundred less on both. Looking at the used car section I see a 2000 Elantra for sale at $5,990 with 112,205 miles on it. And one with 103,000 for $4K Plus you cannot use comparably equipped cars. When you do the original MSRP of the Honda is much higher than the Hyundai.
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Replying to: travler (Feb 06, 2006 4:18 pm) Acura Honda Infiniti Lexus Toyota/Scion Subaru Suzuki (based on one vehicle, the Japanese-made SUV) Pretty good company, yes? P.S. In the 2005 report, there was no "too soon for fair comparison" on the Sonata. Also keep in mind that the previous-gen Sonata was designed before Hyundai's quality initiative began in 2000. There has been a huge leap in the quality and reliability of the Sonata and other Hyundais since then.
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Replying to: jpnewt (Feb 06, 2006 4:18 pm) |
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Replying to: jpnewt (Feb 06, 2006 4:40 pm) Lets face it it Honda and especially Accord has rested on its laurels for too long: 1) No rear disc brakes std 2) No auto locks when car goes in motion 3) No roadside assistance 4) all the safety features it lacks - I articulated in post #2618 5) Oh and one of the cheapest warranties in the business 3/36 come on give me a break. I had my wife's Pilot in the other day because the horn would go off for no apparent reason the car is not even 3 years old but has 38K on it they didn't want to cover it I had to talk to service manager - pretty sorry. They are simply losing their edge to Hyundai and Toyota. It is that simple.
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Replying to: stockmanjoe (Feb 06, 2006 4:49 pm) I have to agree with you here, Honda is losing badly. The Accord just lost the C&D/CR comparison and came last, the new Civic's sales are down and the Accord's sales are down. Honda's sales in general are at an all time low! Oh wait...the Accord came first. Oh yeah, and the Civic's sales increased by 56.2% and the Accord's by 9%. Actually, Honda's division's sales increased by 24.4%. This company is losing badly, I have to face the facts. 
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 06, 2006 3:18 pm) A fully loaded Sonata LX has a MSRP of $23,495 A fully loaded Accord EX has a MSRP of $27,850 So its 18.5% more, is a accord 18.5% more? No it isn't. And for others, the extra 10-20% paid for an Accord or Toyota will more than pay for itself in resale value, or if they keep the car for the long run, pay for itself in less repairs. Not sure about that my sister pays a lot more in repairs for her Toyota than I pay for my Elantra. Now as for repairs outside of routine maintenice I put $0 into it (plus no warranty work) for the first 131,500 miles. Just two weeks ago was the first non maintenice work I ever put in it and it was replacing a sensor for about $200. My wifes Accent $0 in 85-90k miles. My Daughters Elantra $0 if about 85k miles. I know many who have high mileage on their hyundais and have spent very little on repairs. I know few, if any, that pay a lot. 131,500 Miles with nothing going wrong, no stalling, started every time (even sub zero weather), no leaks, no lights going out, no squeaks, no rattles, no rust, nothing. You cannot argue with that. And please spare me the "Your lucky" comment because most people get plenty of worry free miles. |
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