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Re: Resale Value – Past, Now, and Future [leadfoot6] by snakeweasel
Feb 06, 2006 (2:55 pm)

Replying to: goodegg (Feb 06, 2006 2:29 pm)

Its there I just read them.
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Re: Resale Value – Past, Now, and Future [snakeweasel] by tenpin288 [cxc] [travler] by snakeweasel
Feb 06, 2006 (2:57 pm)

Replying to: travler (Feb 06, 2006 2:50 pm)

These Sonata posters have already purchased the vehicle. They are not going to believe they made a bad decision until the vehicle lets them down.
 
Ok I am driving a 2000 Elantra, when will that let me down?
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Re: SONATA RATED [ctalk] by snakeweasel
Feb 06, 2006 (2:59 pm)

Replying to: ctalk (Feb 06, 2006 2:52 pm)

Saying "it could mean" is not the same as saying "it does mean"
 
Please do not put words in my mouth. All I said was most cars are stolen for spare parts. Anything else is inferred by you.
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Re: Sonata ratings plus quality overall [jpnewt] by cxc
Feb 06, 2006 (3:01 pm)

Replying to: jpnewt (Feb 06, 2006 2:43 pm)

For sales occurring from May 1 through Sept. 25, the 2006 Sonata averaged a $19,943 transaction price, according to Power Information Network data.
  
That also compares with an average transaction price of $20,332 for the Camry and $21,120 for the Accord over the same period, the Power data show.
 
The average family income for buyers of these three cars is around $70K.
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Re: Sonata ratings plus quality overall [jpnewt] by snakeweasel
Feb 06, 2006 (3:04 pm)

Replying to: jpnewt (Feb 06, 2006 2:54 pm)

I'm glad some of you have had good luck but there is more negative comments(industry)in my opinion than positive.
 
Could you show us where the positive comments are outweighed by negative ones? It really gets me that no matter how many people will say they had no problems with their Hyundai the standard reply is "oh your just one out of thousands". Yet just one person says anything bad and its the standard for the car.
 
Warranty is great but you can't drive a Warranty.
 
As far as I was concerned the warranty was useless. I mean nothing went wrong for the first 131,500 miles.
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Re: SONATA RATED [snakeweasel] by ctalk
Feb 06, 2006 (3:11 pm)

Replying to: snakeweasel (Feb 06, 2006 2:59 pm)

I am not putting words into your mouth.
 
Or it could mean that Hondas need more spare parts than Hyundais. Think about that.
 
I just disagree with this statement which you seem to be ignoring. You stated that you did not say anything else. I was simply answering this post.
 
Well, we're not getting anywhere with this conversation. We can stop.
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Re: Sonata ratings plus quality overall [cxc] by jpnewt
Feb 06, 2006 (3:12 pm)

Replying to: cxc (Feb 06, 2006 3:01 pm)

Wait a Minute Where's the $8K to $10K difference in price!!!!! You mean everyone's been fabricating numbers!! So then my point where is the Savings in buying a Hyundai?!
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Re: Sonata ratings plus quality overall [snakeweasel] by travler
Feb 06, 2006 (3:13 pm)

Replying to: snakeweasel (Feb 06, 2006 2:54 pm)

Bottom line, you get what you pay for. A $7 steak is still a $7 steak. I've never had a really good one.
 
The Sanota isn't junk, but it sure isn't an Accord or a Camry either. We're not talking about designer cars either. That would be a BMW. Now you're talking thousands of dollars for the name,and their reliability rating isn't that great either.
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Re: Let's Be Fair [snakeweasel] by grbeck
Feb 06, 2006 (3:15 pm)

Replying to: snakeweasel (Feb 06, 2006 2:36 pm)

snakeweasel: Actually I did do that for my car (2000 Elantra with 130K miles) and compared it to a 2000 civic with 130K miles that would have had close to the same MSRP. Guess what, there wasn't much difference around $200.
 
Using values from this site, I came up with significantly different results.
 
The two cars compared were a 2000 Honda Civic LX sedan and a 2000 Hyundai GLS sedan. Both vehicles were in average condition, featured automatic, air conditioning and AM/FM/CD radio and had 130,000 miles on the odometer.
 
The Honda's trade-in value was $3,250, and the dealer retail was $5,347.
 
The Hyundai's trade-in value was $913, and the dealer retail was $3,206.
 
The difference between the Honda and the Hyundai is considerably more than $200. This is much more in line with the prices that I see advertised in the local papers.
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Re: Sonata ratings plus quality overall [snakeweasel] by bobw3
Feb 06, 2006 (3:18 pm)

Replying to: snakeweasel (Feb 06, 2006 2:54 pm)

You sound like the guy who goes to a fancy restaurant buys a $25 tough, chewy steak and proclaims "this is the best steak I ever had, much better than your $7.50 tender juicy and tasty one".
 
And if the Sonata cost three times less as in your steak example, you're right I'd buy it in a second. But what percent does the Accord cost over the Sonata? 10% 20% ???
 
So in your steak example, I'm paying $10 instead of $7.50 for an Angus burger versus McDonalds. But that's okay. Lots of people buy the cheap $10 T-shirt at Walmart, while others pay $12 at Target and get something softer that will keep the color for a lot more washes.
 
And for others, the extra 10-20% paid for an Accord or Toyota will more than pay for itself in resale value, or if they keep the car for the long run, pay for itself in less repairs.
 
And repair cost is an average. I own a '99 Mercury Cougar that has really poor quality ratings. Prior to 100K miles I put about $600 into the car. Post 100K miles I've put in probably $2500 (a/c pump, alternator & some routine stuff). All total in 7 years and 120K miles I've spent about $3000 and I consider myself lucky. But I still am not going to say that my Cougar is the highest quality car out there. I could have spent several thousand more and bought a Celica, but I wanted something with a hatchback and not a small trunk opening, so I went with the Cougar. The point is that this forum isn't statistically accurate, so just because you may have a good history with a car, it doesn't mean that an overall car is reliable. I know my Cougar wasn't the most reliable car, but I was lucky with the amount of repairs. In the long run, if a Toyota Celica had met my needs, after all these years I still would be ahead because a comparable Celica would have cost about $4000 more then the Cougar, and I've spent $3000 in repairs, even if you minus $1000 for inconvenience time when my car was in the shop, I'm still at least even.
 
But I'm not going to pretend that my Cougar was of the same quality as the Celica.

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