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Replying to: pnewby (Feb 23, 2007 6:37 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Feb 23, 2007 5:52 pm) According to the EPA at fueleconomy.gov, their tests use an average of 20 MPH for city and 48 MPH for highway. If that’s right for most driving, I wonder why I see only a few of these drivers on the road? Also, they say they are revising their MPG testing techniques for 2008 models by adding three additional tests that will be used to adjust the city and highway estimates to account for higher speeds, air conditioning use, and colder temperatures.
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Replying to: helton (Feb 24, 2007 6:53 am) The whole point of the traditional EPA estimates was always to compare one vehicle to another, never any absolute value. The EPA estimates, city/highway, give a rough range which I have always been easily able to stay inside of, and thats with several vehicles over many years. The EPA has bowed to pressure from people who don't understand the purpose (comparison) of the numbers. That was why I did the earlier post of the incredible range you can get in MPG with the Freestyle (or any vehicle) depending on driving condition.
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Replying to: helton (Sep 13, 2006 7:47 am) |
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Replying to: coldcranker (Feb 24, 2007 9:02 am) The EPA defines highway driving as “a mixture of rural and Interstate highway driving with a warmed-up engine, typical of longer trips in free-flowing traffic”. They allow up to 60 MPH in this routine and the average speed is 48 MPH. They define city driving as “urban driving, in which a vehicle is started with the engine cold and driven in stop-and-go rush hour traffic”. They allow up to 56 MPH in their city driving routine, but the average speed is 20 MPH. I believe you are describing “city driving” in your posting, and I agree that what you describe is very typical for many other drivers. I also agree that it is amazing, if not unbelievable, that you get 25 to 27 MPG in what is essentially “city driving”. All I am saying is that most people who are driving on the highway, as defined by the EPA, do not drift along at an average of 48 MPH. I believe that most of us drive on the highway at 65 to 75 MPH, and most of us who drive a FWD Freestyle get between 21 and 24 MPG. After understanding how the EPA estimates are developed, it is not surprising that most of us get gas mileage that is lower than the EPA estimates. It is unfortunate that many of us bought Ford’s crossover station wagon believing that it would deliver high mileage per gallon. The new EPA estimate for the 2005/2006/2007 FWD Freestyle is 18 MPG City, 25 MPG Highway and 20 MPG Combined. These estimates certainly would not have been enough to make me want to buy one.
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Replying to: helton (Feb 24, 2007 11:14 am)
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Replying to: bruneau1 (Feb 24, 2007 11:17 am) I haven’t looked at others but I wouldn’t be surprised if some went down more than the Freestyle. At least the estimates are a little closer to reality. Funny thing, this makes the 500 miles to a tank of gas myth a bigger lie than ever. 
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Replying to: helton (Feb 24, 2007 1:33 pm) |
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Replying to: helton (Feb 24, 2007 1:33 pm) I appreciate someone pointing out that ALL vehicle MPG EPA estimates drop with the new method. It was always to compare one vehicle to another anyway. Nothing has really changed except now we can't compare vehicles across model years quite as easily. I guess we can get close by subtracting 2 MPG off the highway figure and 2 off the city figure to arrive at the "new style" MPG figures. Well now you see how little any of this accomplishes. They simply used a tougher EPA driving test cycle, and, amazingly, MPG dropped! A miracle has happened!
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Replying to: coldcranker (Feb 24, 2007 4:06 pm)
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