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Re: My first tank with my used awd FS was 23mpg [tango_28]
by coldcranker
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Feb 20, 2007 (8:18 pm)
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Replying to: tango_28 (Feb 20, 2007 7:21 pm)
With an AWD, it might not quite reach 27 MPG at 65. I have a 2WD Freestyle, and thats what I get. Remember the AWD gear eats gas at about 1 or 2 MPG.
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Fuel Econonmy
by tango_28
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Feb 21, 2007 (4:26 am)
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I know it has different gearing from FWD FS, It would be close to 27mpg 65. When I drive for fuel economy I watch the tach rather than the speedometer. Here is good website to learn good mpg driving skills
Gassaver
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Re: Fuel Econonmy [tango_28]
by helton
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Feb 21, 2007 (3:55 pm)
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Replying to: tango_28 (Feb 21, 2007 4:26 am)
"I know it has different gearing from FWD FS, It would be close to 27mpg 65."
I'll bet you can do it, tango_28. Sounds like you have the right car and really know how to drive. Why not give it a try and let us know how you do?
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Re: Fuel Econonmy [tango_28]
by coldcranker
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Feb 21, 2007 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: tango_28 (Feb 21, 2007 4:26 am)
tango_28, By "gear" I meant that turning all the extra mechanical system components in the AWD models burns more gas since it is wasting energy having to do this, compared to a 2WD model. Also, the AWD mechanicals weigh about 200 lbs, eating more gas just from the weight increase. Thats what accounts for most of the MPG drop in AWD models. Thats why a steady cruise at 65 in an AWD model will get you about 25 MPG, not 27. (AWD models also accelerate slower than 2WD models for the same reasons.) I'll take my 2WD model, with better MPG and better acceleration.
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Re: Fuel Econonmy [coldcranker]
by tango_28
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Feb 22, 2007 (3:18 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Feb 21, 2007 7:03 pm)
Yes I knew this when I bought the car, If I really wanted to get great mpg and faster acceleration I would use my modded 03 TDI Jetta wagon. I think it's possible to achieve 27mpg at 65mph. Granted I not going attempt this feat until weather gets warmer here in MN. Also I will buy the fuel in WI because MN mandates 10% ethonal in our gasoline.
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Re: Fuel Econonmy [tango_28]
by helton
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Feb 22, 2007 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: tango_28 (Feb 22, 2007 3:18 am)
"I think it's possible to achieve 27mpg at 65mph."
The EPA highway estimate for this car is 24 mpg, so 27 mpg would really be good. I’m looking forward to warm weather and a report on what kind of mileage tango_28 was able to achieve.
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Re: Fuel Econonmy [helton]
by coldcranker
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Feb 22, 2007 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: helton (Feb 22, 2007 6:45 am)
65 mph just has too much wind drag to get 27 MPG in an AWD model, but you can probably get close.
Here is how to get the best MPG out of your Freestyle:
--- 60 degree F day
--- zero wind (actually, a tailwind would help)
--- tires all at 40 psi
--- just you in the car, no luggage or people
--- 2WD model
--- using a 0w-20 or 5w-20 oil; do not use a 0w-30 or 5w-30 oil, as your MPG suffers about 1 MPG compared to a "20" oil.
--- flat, smoothe concrete road surface (asphalt absorbs energy a little, so concrete is slightly better).
--- 40 to 50 mph speed, steady
--- Not using any ethanol mixed into the gasoline
--- Octane does not matter at all, since we don't have a knock sensor to take advantage of that.
With all the above conditions met, you should be able to get about 33 MPG. (I've done 31 MPG with some of the conditions met.)
Here's how to get the worst MPG:
--- stop-n-go, stop-n-go, stop-n-go Chicago rush-hour downtown, idling, idling, idling, AWD model.
And with these condtions, you're lucky to get 10 MPG.
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Re: My first tank with my used awd FS was 23mpg [tango_28]
by tom_holsinger
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Feb 22, 2007 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: tango_28 (Feb 20, 2007 7:21 pm)
I get 27mpg easily at 65mph on the freeway in my 2006 FWD, and actually got 32mpg under ideal conditions on a trip from Turlock, California (halfway between Sacramento & Fresno) to the San Jose airport and back.
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Re: Fuel Econonmy [coldcranker]
by pnewby
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Feb 23, 2007 (6:37 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Feb 22, 2007 12:03 pm)
I actually got 26mpg in my AWD limited, anything but flat(Lex.,KY to North side of Cincy.,OH), near perfect temps, and light winds. And that was at 70+mph using cruise most of the time. Not so good on the trip back since I got caught in rush hour traffic leaving Cincy, going home to Ky.
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Re: Fuel Econonmy [pnewby]
by tom_holsinger
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Feb 23, 2007 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: pnewby (Feb 23, 2007 6:37 am)
Use of cruise control seems to be more important with a CVT than a regular transmission. I get 25-27 mpg in commuter freeway traffic at 65 mph in a 2006 FWD without using cruise control, and much better with cruise control in long freeway drives outside commuter hours.
Freestyle mpg seems to drop significantly at speeds above 65 mph, or when not using cruise control.
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