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Freestyle Recall-gas tank straps by tourist1234
Nov 16, 2005 (9:49 am)
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Another poster brought this up and I verified.
Ford has a recall on my 2005 Freestyle.
 
FIVE HUNDRED, MONTEGO, FREESTYLE FUEL TANK STRAPS Recall Code: 05S37
 
thought I would pass the news on.
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Re: Freestyle Recall-gas tank straps [tourist1234] by nitromax
Nov 16, 2005 (11:31 am)
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Replying to: tourist1234 (Nov 16, 2005 9:49 am)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051116/ap_on_re_us/ford_recall
 
Apparently, the defects were noticed on long term testing of a 500 sedan at 100,000 miles.
 
I'm not overly concerned, but I will have them fixed at my next check-up.
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New Software to be put on the Car's Computer? by coldcranker
Feb 05, 2006 (10:32 am)
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Does anybody know if Ford has new, revised, updated, more refined software to put on the car's main computer for better gas mileage, etc.? I do know that it is sometimes done by car makers. It would be similar to getting an updated version of Microsoft Word that works better.
  
I hope they do. There was some vague statements made earlier about someone getting lower RPMs at 70 mph after the dealer re-flashed (put new program on) the engine computer.
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5W20 oil? by saabturboid
Feb 09, 2006 (3:04 pm)
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I'm a little concerned about Ford's 5W20 oil recommendation. A 20 weight oil does not have nearly the film protection of a 30 or 40 weight oil which helps protect the moving parts of the engine. My concern is Ford's goal is to simply get people through the warranty period and they don't care if engines wear out prematurely down the road. In fact they may like that to happen so people will go buy a new Ford. Another factor is that a lower viscosity oil will provide slightly better fuel economy. With each manufacturer bumping up against the C.A.F.E. standards I suspect Ford specified 5W20 oil to help keep their fleet under the limit. Personally, I plan to use 5W30 Mobil 1 in my Freestyle.
 
What are others opinions of this?
 
- Chad
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Re: 5W20 oil? [saabturboid] by coldcranker
Feb 09, 2006 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: saabturboid (Feb 09, 2006 3:04 pm)

"I'm a little concerned about Ford's 5W20 oil recommendation.........."
 
You are exactly right about the CAFE standards and Ford's strategy to buy them a little mpg for their fleet averages. I actually saw the legal conformance letter the EPA and Ford both drafted (on the web). The EPA allows the 5w-20 spec on the condition that Ford print "5w-20" on the filler cap and specifiy it in the owner's manual with no wiggle room in their language. Mobil 1 is a good choice, although I'd use Castrol Syntec 0w-30 (has the 30 weight high-temp film) but flows better when cold due to the 0w part. That brand and weight are available at Autozone. That oil is famous for better performance specs amongst all known oils ( google german castrol syntec for more information). Its known as German castrol because it is made there and people in Europe, who change their oil once a year and drive fast on the autobahn, use it.
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Re: 5W20 oil? [coldcranker] by bobw3
Feb 10, 2006 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Feb 09, 2006 6:08 pm)

So does this mean that it's better to use 10W30 in our Freestyle. I want to do what's best in the long run for the engine.
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Re: 5W20 oil? [bobw3] by passat_2002
Feb 10, 2006 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 10, 2006 11:07 am)

No need to obsess about viscosity guys. If Ford Motor recommends 5W-20 for the Duratec, that's good enough for me. Honda has gone to a 5W-20 recommendation on most of their engines too.
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Re: 5W20 oil? [passat_2002] by saabturboid
Feb 11, 2006 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: passat_2002 (Feb 10, 2006 5:01 pm)

I don't think it is obsessing to want to get the best performance and longevity out of ones engine. I'm sure the 5w20 is fine for most conditions and situations when an engine is newer, but as engines wear the gaps between moving parts increase and a 20 weight oil doesn't have as much protection as a heaver weight oil. This eventually will cause the engine to wear out faster than it otherwise would.
 
In my opinion putting 5W30 full synthetic oil in my Freestyle has the upside of better protection for the engine with little or no downsides. By going with a full synthetic the minimal additional fuel economy gains of a lighter oil are negated. Maybe it just helps me sleep better at night but I guess I feel why wouldn't you?
 
- Chad
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Re: 5W20 oil? [saabturboid] by coldcranker
Feb 11, 2006 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: saabturboid (Feb 11, 2006 6:24 am)

I agree. When I had a high-mileage Windstar, I was using Mobil 1 0w-40 to fill the higher clearances in there. There is a lot of evidence in the engineering world that slightly more viscosity does give more protection under high-load, low-rpm situations. Start-up time is when the most dry scraping happens inside the engine. I was impressed with the German Castrol Syntec 0w-30's pour point (-76 def F) (Autozone sells it in the USA for us) and also Chevron's 0w-30 of about the same. I spoke to a Canadian oil company a few years ago and they said most engine wear comes from start-up wear, not running wear anyway. So something that flows well at low temperatures is really the main thing. Seems like higher viscosity (30) in our case might help us a little during low-rpm, high-torque situations, due to the ability for high visc to maintain the oil film then.

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