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Re: Oil Change (revisited) [rick2456] by coldcranker
Jan 31, 2007 (10:47 pm)
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Replying to: rick2456 (Jan 31, 2007 6:00 am)

"Not sure what formula they use"
 
Here is what Ford does with their oil life monitor: They take 5,000 miles and subtract mileage since last oil change. Then they divide that result by 5,000 miles and multiply times 100 for percent. Then, they take 6 months and subtract the time since your last oil change, and divide the result by 6 months, times 100. They then choose the smallest percentage between the mileage method and the time method. That way, as you rack up miles to 5,000 or approach 6 months, the oil life monitor chooses whichever is expected to occur first, a mileage limit or a time limit.
 
GM's oil life monitor is a lot more advanced and thoughtfull, as it just takes into account how the vehicle is driven (cold, hot, idle time, counting revolutions, etc.).
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GM Monitor by mschmal
Feb 02, 2007 (8:58 am)
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More Advanced at putting money in dealers pockets is what it sounds like.
 
Mark.
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not really by gerardtn
Feb 02, 2007 (11:37 am)
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When I had an impala with the oil change monitor, it would go over 6 months before I was required a change. So this actually contradicted my dealers recommendation.
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Re: Oil Change (revisited) [coldcranker] by rick2456
Feb 07, 2007 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 31, 2007 10:47 pm)

No wonder Ford is losing money and customers. I for sure have bought my last Ford even though I took a 25 year break from them (my last one was a Ford Maverick that I had in HS).
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Re: GM Monitor [mschmal] by coldcranker
Feb 09, 2007 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: mschmal (Feb 02, 2007 8:58 am)

"More Advanced at putting money in dealers pockets is what it sounds like. "
 
mschmal, Not at all. The sophisticated GM algorithm, similar to what BMW uses as well, actually allows more miles than the dim-witted Ford method of time/mileage, which usually results in unnecessarily frequent oil changes. My '03 Chevy went 8,000 miles between changes in mixed driving, and my '01 BMW 525i went 9,000 miles. Ford, in those situations, would waste oil/time/money at the default 5,000 miles, making more money for their dealers.
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Re: Oil Change (revisited) [rick2456] by coldcranker
Feb 09, 2007 (7:13 pm)
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Replying to: rick2456 (Feb 07, 2007 7:55 am)

"I for sure have bought my last Ford "...
 
Some models of Ford are good, some aren't. Ford F-150 is competitive, Freestyle is great, Edge not quite, Focus is good, etc.
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Coldcranky is upset with Ford. by fordenvy
Mar 09, 2007 (6:37 pm)
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I guess he hasen't been so lucky with Fords. With Fords it is all about luck some people may never have problems where others are plagued with problems. I myself fall under the lucky column.
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Re: Coldcranky is upset with Ford. [fordenvy] by bruneau1
Mar 10, 2007 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: fordenvy (Mar 09, 2007 6:37 pm)

Among the domestic brands, Ford does better than either Chrysler or GM and even European brands, but not as good as the Japanese.
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Re: Coldcranky is upset with Ford. [bruneau1] by fordenvy
Mar 14, 2007 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: bruneau1 (Mar 10, 2007 11:46 am)

Thats true, in the CR magazine.
1toyota
2honda
3ford
4gm
5chrysler
6hyundai
7vw
 
Ford having 3rd place for reliability and having the worst financial problem is bad management (Bill and Friends).
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Fordenvy is confused again by coldcranker
Jun 21, 2008 (9:58 am)
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Fordenvy is confused. rick2426 was the user who said he wouldn't buy another Ford. Also, Fordenvy is missing the point. You buy the best quality designed car to maximize your chances of having good reliability, and choose a good performing design to get satisfaction when it does work.

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