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#171 of 227
my experience by gerardtn
Oct 30, 2006 (5:58 am)
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I wasn't offered free brakes until they pulled my calipers and found they couldn't get them back together. At that point, they admitted that the calipers must have been defective and offered me free parts. Then they couldn't get the calipers. I called Ford, and was then offered free everything from the dealer. BTW, it was not from the selling dealer, so they weren't trying to keep a customer happy.
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Re: Rear Brake Issues [mandygratton] by passat_2002
Oct 30, 2006 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: mandygratton (Oct 29, 2006 2:36 pm)

"My dealership is saying that there's no recall for the brakes."
 
Your dealer is correct. There has never been a recall. There was a technical service bulletin issued in March 2005 regarding rear brakes that only applied to early build '05 models. Ask your dealer about TSB 05-4-7 Mar 05.
 
Your description of 0% brake life on the rear while having 95% on the front is extremely unusual. If your dealer is claiming "driver error", ask them to be more specific. Ask them just exactly how driving habits could account for this very unusual wear pattern. About the only thing I can think of to account for this would be if you or someone else drove around some with the parking brake partially set. That would indeed be "driver error".
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Re: Rear Brake Issues [mandygratton] by coldcranker
Oct 30, 2006 (3:55 pm)
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Replying to: mandygratton (Oct 29, 2006 2:36 pm)

Rear brakes at 0% while fronts at near full? Sure, parking brake dragging could do it, and also check for calipers dragging against the brakes while running. This was a problem in a near-new '91 Taurus station wagon I special ordered with rear discs, like our Freestyles. They changed the master cylinder and cured it, as I recall (my Dad had the car, so not completely sure). Anyway, it should be easy to tell if the pads are dragging against the rear rotors, as they should turn freely when the engine is running while the car is on a lift.
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Re: Rear Brake Issues [mandygratton] by reppep
Oct 30, 2006 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: mandygratton (Oct 29, 2006 2:36 pm)

Check message #140 in this forum. It's the complete TSB
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Re: Rear Brake Issues [coldcranker] by rick2456
Oct 31, 2006 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Oct 30, 2006 3:55 pm)

In a brake related matter, I took my FS to the dealer as the emergency brake did not hold on steep hills. I was told by the service manager, that there is no adjustment for the emergency brake. I told him, that was ludicrious, and he agreed, but that it was the case. Anybody have a similar issue?
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Re: Rear Brake Issues [rick2456] by bobw3
Oct 31, 2006 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: rick2456 (Oct 31, 2006 6:10 am)

Are you putting the car in neutral on the hills? It seems like and auto or CVT in park isn't going to roll even without using the parking brake. With the car in the Park position, even if the emergency brake isn't super-tight, it's really only a backup in the rare case that the transmission pops from Park to Neutral on it's own.
#177 of 227
no by gerardtn
Oct 31, 2006 (3:39 pm)
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haven't heard that, that's interesting
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Re: no [gerardtn] by rick2456
Nov 01, 2006 (4:11 am)
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Replying to: gerardtn (Oct 31, 2006 3:39 pm)

No, I always put the car in park, but I do know that it is not good for the transmission to use the park function as a hill brake, thus when on hills, I use the emergency brake. It holds some, but if I take it out of park, it will roll very slowly.
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test park by gerardtn
Nov 01, 2006 (4:27 am)
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I'd take it in to the dealer, and point out that it is not good for the transmission to have the car use it as a parking brake. They should know that, it's in every owner's manual I have ever read. Even if it's not in the manual, you can surely find a reference on the internet to using the parking brake, not the transmission, to hold the car on hills. If you use the transmission to hold the car, it'll lock up the transmission and make it hard to shift out of park.
 
Anyway, insist that your service tech take the car on a hill and put the brake on and then before he puts it in park, let off the brake pedal. That's the way they tell you to park a car. If it rolls, tell him to fix it under the 36/36 bumper to bumper. Tell him you don't care if he can't adjust the handle, to fix it whatever way he has to.
 
If that doesn't work, go through the steps in your owners guide. go to the service manager, then call ford, etc. And be nice, you'll catch more flies with honey.
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Re: no [rick2456] by northlakes
Nov 01, 2006 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: rick2456 (Nov 01, 2006 4:11 am)

The Freestyle shop manual says that the parking brake cable is self-adjusting.
 
Assuming you are setting the parking brake by pushing it to the floor (4 or 5 clicks for full benefit), the manual says to look for binding parking brake cables (under the Freestyle connected to the rear wheel brakes). If the PB pedal does not engage smoothly, you should also check the parking brake control attached to the pedal.
 
Though a common practice, I would never trust the single tooth of the transmission Park pawl to hold a 4000 pound vehicle on a steep hill. Good luck with the dealer and the parking brake.

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